Vitamin C Forum

Well what a great story on what Vitamin C and Pauling's therapy can do for you. Good for you. Oh! Owen I am just in from working outside painting the house and feeling just great. Not sure I'll get it all done this year but will chip away at it. My wife is pleased as we can forget the estimate we received of thousand of dollars. Big difference from when I first got in touch with you back in 2012. This is my best year in a long time. Thanks nineboy.

Hi Greg,
I am a newbie desperately want to reverse my blockages. In addition to Cardio-C, what else you doing and/or taking, life style change, eating habit, etc? Any advice?

Jack wrote:Hi Greg,
I am a newbie desperately want to reverse my blockages. In addition to Cardio-C, what else you doing and/or taking, life style change, eating habit, etc? Any advice?

You didn't ask me but I'll answer anyway. Supplements like nicotinic acid, taurine and acetyl-carnitine (or just any variety of the carnitines) as well as CoEnzyme q10, provide additional and sometimes even greater benefits, than the pauling therapy alone does, for reversing plaque formation and supporting the energy uptake by the heart when cardiovascular events occur that may hinder the heart from getting the energy it needs.
As for arterial calcification, there's vitamin D, vitamin K2, vitamin A and perhaps others.

Hi Unknown,
Do you know anything about Serrapeptase and Nattokwinase? Can they really clear arteries, do they work well with vitamin C?

Jack wrote:Hi Unknown,
Do you know anything about Serrapeptase and Nattokwinase? Can they really clear arteries, do they work well with vitamin C?

No, I don't think they can, but seriously don't waste your time and money on fad supplements like those, it's completely unnecessary. Pauling therapy is all you need to clear the arteries of the plaque deposits, it works for practically all people.
Now, as said, adding taurine, alcar and especially nicotinic acid, will speed up the removal of the plaque, but it is primarily the pauling therapy doing the work. The reason those things speed up the removal is that they reduce cholesterol, triglycerides, lipoprotein(a).
You might also have calcified arteries and for that you simply add the vitamin D, k2 and vitamin A.

But with enough time, pauling therapy is really all you need for the plaque deposit removal.
The pauling therapy consists of l-lysine, l-proline and C vitamin.

I desparately hope this would work, guess so are many others. But Unknown, may I ask you why you are so certain this formula works?
I believe in the formula, however, I was not able to find strong cases/testimonials from internet, I know people love to share successfully stories particularly recovery stories like this.

I got 4 artery blocked around 50%. I am taking 2 scoops of Cardio-C + 2g of C per day. You think the dosage is good? And how long do you think it will take for complete removal? ...you seem knowing so much about the formal.... Thanks!

Jack wrote:I desparately hope this would work, guess so are many others. But Unknown, may I ask you why you are so certain this formula works?
I believe in the formula, however, I was not able to find strong cases/testimonials from internet, I know people love to share successfully stories particularly recovery stories like this.

I got 4 artery blocked around 50%. I am taking 2 scoops of Cardio-C + 2g of C per day. You think the dosage is good? And how long do you think it will take for complete removal? ...you seem knowing so much about the formal.... Thanks!

Remember that this is not a fad diet proposed by "Mr. Buy My Book" who has no education in science but is a self-proclaimed doctor or expert or whatever. Rather, Linus Pauling was a scientist who demonstrated that it almost completely reversed plaque deposits in an animal model. And then he was unreasonably attacked.
Besides this, I have a relative who has used it and it does indeed work. That's all the evidence a rational person needs, namely experience. In fact, it would be irrational to reject one's own experience in favor of someone else's. But why not read about the biochemistry of vitamin C, lysine and proline, and the biology of plaque deposits? It's pretty easy to understand how these 3 things work even for someone with no formal education.

There is reasonable skepticism and there is a bizarre, unreasonable opposition by some people because of their symbolic thinking.
If it costs 10-20 dollars to try completely safe NUTRIENTS for a month, which could increase your likelihood of living more YEARS, why not pay that small amount of money? If it doesn't work, you then can exclude it.

Great, I totally agree with you.
I am taking aspirin and statin drugs, which I am so relectant to. I plan to stop taking statin, but I believe aspirin could protect me from stoke. What is your take on these drugs given my condition, and I had been taking Cardio-C for just over a month.

Jack wrote:Great, I totally agree with you.
I am taking aspirin and statin drugs, which I am so relectant to. I plan to stop taking statin, but I believe aspirin could protect me from stoke. What is your take on these drugs given my condition, and I had been taking Cardio-C for just over a month.

From what I understand,
statins are counterproductive and even hazardous since they reduce CoEnzyme q10 which is cardioprotective and has many great properties, and you need cholesterol to repair the body's tissues and so many other things.
Aspirin is unnecessary, you can take fish oil and vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid), that possess a plethora of other benefits, if you want to prevent strokes, and I bet you that they even work better than aspirin does.

By the way, I did not order my vitamin C, lysine and proline from this website but from the famous supplement websites like Amazon, iHerb, and so on, so I am not shilling for this website and to me it doesn't matter where you get them from.

Right. In addition to LP formula, I will start to take nicotinic acid to lower my cholesterol, Vitamin K2 (M-7) to remove calcified, and fish oil.

Any brand/spec you recommend on these supplements?
Do I need to take V-D along with K2?
And for fish oil, did you mean Omega-3?

Any other advice?

Jack wrote:Right. In addition to LP formula, I will start to take nicotinic acid to lower my cholesterol, Vitamin K2 (M-7) to remove calcified, and fish oil.

Any brand/spec you recommend on these supplements?
Do I need to take V-D along with K2?
And for fish oil, did you mean Omega-3?

Any other advice?

Fish oil is (normally?) a combination of all the essential omega fatty acids plus the conditionally essential (there are 2 essentials, 1 conditionally essential), plus things like a bit of vitamin E and C to prevent oxidation of the fatty acids and to maintain shelf life.

Since vitamin D helps prevent calcified arteries, why not add it for good measure? I believe vitamin A is also used for calcified arteries but I'm not sure. You'll have to search the forum for those answers, or someone else will have to answer you.

You could also get a test by a cardiologist to see if you have calcified arteries because then you know whether there's even a reason to supplement at all (I'd guess you've already have this confirmed, maybe you've even noted it).

Beware that K2 M-7 has a long half-life and can produce uncomfortable side-effects in people with arterial blockages in their legs, but that's just an experience of my relative who took it. The blood thinning effects of fish oil and niacin should mitigate some of the coagulation of K2 M-7.

My calcium score is 229.4 (LAD43.3 LCX83.6, RCA102.5). It's not at serious level, guess I still need something extra to clear them.

Do you recommend M-4 then which has a shorter half-life?

RatherBeUnknown wrote:

Jack wrote:Great, I totally agree with you.
I am taking aspirin and statin drugs, which I am so relectant to. I plan to stop taking statin, but I believe aspirin could protect me from stoke. What is your take on these drugs given my condition, and I had been taking Cardio-C for just over a month.

From what I understand,
statins are counterproductive and even hazardous since they reduce CoEnzyme q10 which is cardioprotective and has many great properties, and you need cholesterol to repair the body's tissues and so many other things.
Aspirin is unnecessary, you can take fish oil and vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid), that possess a plethora of other benefits, if you want to prevent strokes, and I bet you that they even work better than aspirin does.

By the way, I did not order my vitamin C, lysine and proline from this website but from the famous supplement websites like Amazon, iHerb, and so on, so I am not shilling for this website and to me it doesn't matter where you get them from.

RatherBeUnknown,
I don't want to hijack this thread, but you suggest taking vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid). Is there recommended dosage and is there brand you recommend?

Thanks,
Chuck

ChuckArbogast wrote:RatherBeUnknown,
I don't want to hijack this thread, but you suggest taking vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid). Is there recommended dosage and is there brand you recommend?

Thanks,
Chuck

I use Swanson's because they're cheapest, and there's no reason to buy expensive nicotinic acid since its bioavailability is very great. Dosages range from 500mg to 3g-4g (3g-4g is therapeutic dosage but smaller dosages also have therapeutic effects to some degree) a day, but rather than over the course of the day it should be morning or evening, or morning and evening, because the liver needs time to rest from its effects (it reduces liver's release of triglycerides..).
Don't buy into the slow or extended release, or any of the exotic varieties, just get plain unadulterated flush-inducing nicotinic acid.