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Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:27 am
by hvc
My wife was taking 13gm of vitamin c daily. We see a doctor who works with and monitors us. He tested my wifes's vitamin c level and found she was deficient. Any ideas what could be causing her to not absorb the vitamin c? She had been taking 2 scoops of cardio c daily and supplementing with 1000mg capsules. the doctor has sinced told her to switch to 4 scoops of cardio c. She is scheduled for her next blood test next week. She is 54 years old and not overweight.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:20 am
by exitium
I guess the question I would have is how long has she been supplementing and has her deficiency condition improved at all? Also, whats means of testing is used and what guidelines for claiming she is deficient?
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:49 am
by hvc
She has been supplementing for about 9-10 months (the first few months were at a lower dosage). This was tested through a blood test. I will get the blood test results and post the number shortly.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:30 am
by hvc
vitamin c was 6.7 mg/L on July 22 thats down from 7.5 mg/L on March 21.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:50 pm
by OxC
There is evidence that some people cannot properly absorb the reduced form of vitamin C. See examples on this very forum
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=43661#p43661 and
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=44130#p44130. It is my belief that the solution to their problem is not ingesting more and more of a form they cannot absorb, but instead ingesting a form they
can absorb. Namely DHAA.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:22 am
by hvc
Thank you.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:42 am
by Johnwen
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:18 am
by hvc
Thank you Johnwen. I ordered the strips. I just want to make sure I understand. If she is truly not absorbing the vit-c it would not come out in the urine (I assume it would exit through the bowels). If she is absorbing enough the urine level should be high enough to indicate so. Is that correct?
Also when they refer to plasma levels, is that what was measured in the blood test she took? What does the blood level indicate?
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:28 pm
by tjohnson_nb
Has she ever tried to determine her bowel tolerance?
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:34 am
by OxC
hvc wrote:I ordered the strips. I just want to make sure I understand. If she is truly not absorbing the vit-c it would not come out in the urine (I assume it would exit through the bowels). If she is absorbing enough the urine level should be high enough to indicate so. Is that correct?
Also when they refer to plasma levels, is that what was measured in the blood test she took? What does the blood level indicate?
I highly recommend that you carefully read the first reference cited previously by Johnwen. Please recognize that 25% of people like you will give positive results on these urine strips. Contact me personally if you want to discuss how to use these test strips properly, preferably by phone.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:47 am
by OxC
I meant to say, "Please recognize that 25% of people with blood levels in the range of your wife's will give positive results on these urine strips."
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:02 am
by hvc
OxC. Could you please private message me a phone number that I can reach you at. Thanks.
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:34 am
by jennys
Maybe the content of vitamin C she can really absorb is lower than the intake, which is due to her own body system. So try to absorb as much vitamin c as possible. have she tried drinking guava water instead of boiled - cooled water? i think use natural products along with vit C tabs will help. especially when guava contains 4 times of vitamin C of oranges.
i read about it here:
https://wikihomenutrition.com/guava-health-benefits/
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:47 pm
by Jack
Anyone knows if supplement in "free form" is in fact better in absorption as claimed?
Re: Not absorbing vitamin c
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:10 pm
by ofonorow
hvc wrote:My wife was taking 13gm of vitamin c daily. We see a doctor who works with and monitors us. He tested my wifes's vitamin c level and found she was deficient. Any ideas what could be causing her to not absorb the vitamin c? She had been taking 2 scoops of cardio c daily and supplementing with 1000mg capsules. the doctor has sinced told her to switch to 4 scoops of cardio c. She is scheduled for her next blood test next week. She is 54 years old and not overweight.
First, as far as the well-intended advice to take vitamin C in the partially oxidized form DHAA - I'd like to see even anecdotal results for partially-oxidized vitamin C that are like what we have posted at http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/#TESTIMONY of using fully reduced vitamin C. These reports are ( usually )of vitamin C as ascorbic acid.
Or any evidence that this woman's vitamin C readings would be any higher? DHAA is rapidly reduced or converted by special DHAA enzyme similar to catalyze.
This report reminds me of Hugh Riordan's story of how he first became interested in vitamin C as a medical student. I forget the exact time in this video (https://youtu.be/pnvtep-O8y8). Riordan was giving himself vitamin C IV and testing his blood vitamin C levels. He was bit by a spider, and after the IV his blood levels were zero! This surprised him, and he had the same experience for several days, taking his blood vitamin C AFTER an intravenous infusion, yet his blood levels were ZERO. His (and my) conclusion was that tissues under stress can accept large amounts of ascorbate in the blood almost immediately after the vitamin C reaches the blood stream.
Something like this may be happening with your wife. Her tissues may be absorbing all the ascorbate that is made available in the blood stream, ergo, she should take more until she experiences Cathcart's Bowel Tolerance phenomenon.