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Relative had pacemaker put in

Post Number:#1  Post by BaronZemo » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:48 am

This week a relative had a pacemaker put in. She was feeling light headed tired, and had to crawl to bathroom to vomit. Day later went to doctor at hospital. Did variety of tests, had issue with pulse (not sure if too high or low) . Blood pressure was very low like 104 over 70. What they found was left artery completely blocked and smaller arteries were growing to let blood pass to heart. Part of heart is damaged as well. Heart stabilized but doctor wanted pacemaker put in to guarantee stabilization.

Here is what I gathered: 65 years old, retired 6 months ago, lives in semi rural area, outdoor work gardens, not overweight, slender. Has been taking blood pressure medicine for three years. After light headedness blood pressure dropped, currently not taking bp meds. Had to be given med to get heart to race because so low. At time of getting bp med prescribed, her cholesterol readings were well within range as well as triglycerides.
Smoker as well. She said she was taking 1000mg of C at time, also fish oil, olive oil, and coq10. Moderate drinker. I noticed her finger nails were brown and curled as well.

What I don't understand is that how can cholesterol levels be normal three years ago and then all of a sudden be clogged now? She also pondered if
taking blood pressure meds sooner as well as statins would have prevented this. She is also is taking a blood thinner now as well

Finally, her mother lived to age of 82, was obese, ate red meat took bp meds but never had heart attack. Her father died of heart attack at age 53. One brother had angioplasty, took bp eventually had stroke and is invalid, Other brother had heart disease, angioplasty, surgery, bp cholesterol etc. still alive . Her three other sisters had never had heart issues, but one died of cancer.

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Re: Relative had pacemaker put in

Post Number:#2  Post by ofonorow » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:56 am

She was feeling light headed tired, and had to crawl to bathroom to vomit. Day later went to doctor at hospital. Did variety of tests, had issue with pulse (not sure if too high or low) . Blood pressure was very low like 104 over 70.


These are classic symptoms of the adrenal glands not producing enough cortisol. I myself have been on the floor, unable to get up (after being perfectly fine the night before.) I have been admitted to the hospital from the ER for low blood pressure. The ER docs now routinely give me "steroids" (hydrocortisone or something stronger) and I quickly recover. The ER doctor tried to explain cortisol's role in kidney function and blood pressure. (For new readers, I am like an Addison-disease patient, in that my adrenals do not make cortisol. With the bioidentical hydrocortisone, I live a pretty normal life.)

If your relative gets through this, you might have them do a ZRT all-day cortisol saliva test. If she weren't making any, she'd be dead. But if she is below the normal throughout the day, that indicates that bioidentical hydrocortisol would be necessary. Then the problem is finding an MD who would prescribe. :evil: Good luck.



What they found was left artery completely blocked and smaller arteries were growing to let blood pass to heart. Part of heart is damaged as well. Heart stabilized but doctor wanted pacemaker put in to guarantee stabilization


What abut the "enzyme tests/EKG that showed she had a heart attack? Smells a little fishy, especially after the New York times reported a few years back that Kaiser was "faking" heart disease diagnosis - to increase earnings.
I don't know where you live, but maybe you can send the medical records for a second opinion? johnwen?

Assuming an accurate diagnosis, she sounds like a candidate for Pauling's therapy, e.g. at least 5 grams of vitamin C daily (with a like amount of daily lysine). Along with bioidentical cortisol.
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Re: Relative had pacemaker put in

Post Number:#3  Post by Johnwen » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 am

Did you know 95% of people being prep for bypass surgery have Cholesterol levels that are considered Excellent???

We have went thru many aspects of this problem of clogging arteries!
Which starts when there is a breakdown of cells within the walls of the arteries that starts this chain reaction to protect, correct and cover the damage with nature’s natural Bandage Known as Cholesterol!
Which is the reasoning behind Pauling therapy to prevent this damage from occurring in the first place and to mitigate the bodies response if it does occur!
The subject here has had a problem for a considerable amount of time do to the presents of Collateral’s which do not happen over night.

1000mg of V-C isn’t going to do much for the damage that has been done but it isn’t going to hurt and may help prevent further damage from occurring.

To help get things back in line to the undamaged part of the heart they need to be taking the complete Therapy, Pauling recommended at the right amount.

They should be thankful for the pacemaker as a pacemaker is constantly monitoring and correcting any kind rhythm problems that may occur which takes the stress away from the rest of the heart!

Another point here is 97% of people who experience a heart attack test positive for HSV. Yes! the same virus that causes cold sores and the thing that stops them in their path is Lysine which is a component of PT.

Of course the Statinators AKA Medical Experts! Like to Overlook this because it don’t sell their drugs that do nothing to solve the problem!

You want to help this person? Get them on a Good regimen of Pauling therapy and don’t let them miss a single day of taking it! Also Look into Serrapeptase 40,000spu min. More the better!

As far a cortisol I’ll just say this “You Can’t beat a Sick Horse to make it work!!” :o
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Re: Relative had pacemaker put in

Post Number:#4  Post by BaronZemo » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:20 pm

So even if a person WAS taking statins or had them within the normal range without statins, there still could be a build up in the arterial walls leading to blockage? And lysine/proline would serve as a "non stick coating" to keep it from adhering?

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Re: Relative had pacemaker put in

Post Number:#5  Post by Johnwen » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:51 am

This is what it does!

Which is the reasoning behind Pauling therapy to prevent this damage from occurring in the first place and to mitigate the bodies response if it does occur!


I’ll explain the whole process in the simplest way I can for clarity!

Plaque (cholesterol) build up in the arteries is a secondary response to a damaged point within the arterial wall. But first you have to understand that every cell on your body use a diet of two things That being Sugar and Fat! Sugar is circulating in the body as glucose at a controlled level and taken into the cells as the demand for energy from them increases. Fat is circulating in the body as Cholesterol which levels are controlled by the liver and is used by the cells to build structural strength.
You also have to understand that the arteries of the body are a structure of muscle and they have their own circulatory system to bring and remove nourishment and waste from these muscles. (Arterial and veinal system)
Now when there is breach (damage) by a causative agent, in the blood supply pipes (arteries) of the body the veinal blood from the surrounding muscle can leak into the supply pipe. Which is like having waste water in your drinking water! The body responds just like most normal people would to the water problem and that is, “Do what you can to fix the problem!”
Just like the people who know bad water when they sense it, the body has detectors circulating around to identify a problem (Lpa) when there is a breach these detectors turn into first responders and attach to the damaged tissue at the breach. The body has a way thru the liver, to know how many of these detectors are out there and when there is a sudden drop in their number it responds by sending out more Fats to aid in rebuilding the structures of the cells that are attracting and holding the detectors.
Getting back to the detectors, Once they attach they become like magnets to recruit fats to plug the hole in the pipe. The problem is a lot of times this process gets carried away!! The drop in detector level (Lpa) is a lot of times met with a increase in detectors and they continue to attach to the damaged area and to the other responders at the damage point this in turn causes more fats to gather and next thing you know instead of plug in the breech you have a clogged pipe.

Statins do a good job at lowering the fats in the blood but do not stop their production all together and Statins do nothing to the livers production of the detectors (Lpa) and they can continue to do what their there for. They (statins) reduced amount of fats still go to the priority point where the detectors (Lpa) are doing their job. This in turn causes a reduction of the amount of fats going to other cells that need fat for their structural support and they become weak and start to fall apart.
So you can see reducing fats really don’t solve the problem but do make money for the drug companies!

Now Lysine which is a component of PT once it enters the body and reaches circulation looks like dead tissue to the detectors (Lpa) and they attach and lock to it and it escorts it to the liver where both components are processed out! This leaves less to accumulate at the breech the liver can produce more but even these can’t resist lysine and the numbers at the breech remain low.
This reduced amount of Detectors/ Fat Magnets thus reduce the build up of fats at the breech and circulation can continue in the pipe and the fat build up at the breech is just a covering over the damage. (Bandage)

The V-C component works thru the pipe and the circulatory system of the pipe and brings and produces the needed components like collagen to repair the damage and stop the causative agent that is causing the breech.

The other components are necessary nutrients needed to assure the structures of the arterial complex remain strong and healthy!

Serrapeptase is a enzyme produced by the silk worm as it matures to dissolve the cocoon it’s in so it can progress in it’s maturing. It has been found that this enzyme can also dissolve plaque in the arteries of humans a long as there is still circulation present and the plaque is not calcified (which is called stable plaque) as such a combination of K2-D3 and Serrapeptase has been shown to dissolve even these type of plaque. However since the drug companies aren’t making money off them their enforcement arm the FDA won’t let people say it works even thou, it does!!

Now you see why I like using Links instead of writing long comments like this. Hope this helps with your understanding of cause and effect of this cascade of events that still is the #1 killer in the world! Which is sad because it actually is a simple process, That can be stopped! However there is no steady stream of money coming in from a cure! Even if it saves lives!! :cry:
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