Ascorbic acid and your PH

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Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by DiverDown2 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:55 am

Ascorbic Acid has a PH value of approximately 2, Will taking 18 G. Vitamin-C daily not make your body more acid ?
Since we need to be between 7.0 - 7.4

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by Lemon Planet » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:18 pm

I have the same question. I have been taking about 4 g AA every 2 hours for almost the last year and now worry about pH.

I am reading the book "Sodium Bicarbonate - Rich Man Poor Man's Cancer Treatment" and have some litmus paper arriving soon. The body is supposed to get more acidic with aging and give an environment beneficial to bacteria, viruses, fungi and cancer so I am worried.

I know the AA does acidify the urine and must have a way around the kidney's neutralizing ability. I think the acidic urine was believed to be beneficial about Pauling's time except I think he was also using bicarbonate. I can't remember the exact references so that is very uncertain. Now I read where alkaline urine can eliminate bladder infections and even destroy prostate cancer and so plan to try the sodium bicarbonate treatment to see what happens.

I have never considered sodium ascorbate because my stomach has no problem with ascorbic acid. Now I think alternating bicarbonate and AA during each day might be best in my case. I plan to add magnesium chloride powder in water to the routine next week so this is getting complicated.

What is your saliva pH in the morning and afternoon taking the 18 g?
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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by DiverDown2 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:07 am

When i first got my test strips, my Saliva PH was 6.1 and my Urine was 5.7, I started taking 1/2 teaspoon Sodium Bicarbonate twice daily.
Now my Saliva is 7.3 and Urine is 6.8.

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by pamojja » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:18 am

I had blood pH 5 times meassured because of a COPD diagnosis between 2014 and 2018. Not since, because the COPD improved to a point were no more monitoring was needed. Normal blood pH given was 7.35 - 7.45

2014 7.48
2015 7.48
2016 7.49
2017 7.47
2018 7.43

Average daily intake of ascorbic acid during the 4 years upto 2014 has been 18g. And the 4 years to 2018 25g per day. So my too alkaline blood just normalized with even higher ascorbic acid intake.

However, most are indeed deficient in electrolytes, especially Potassium, Magnesium and Sodium. Therefore always worth monitoring serum electrolytes and supplement accordingly.

For example supplemented 1.9g Sodium, 1,.8 Magnesium and 1.5 Potassium (all elemental) in average daily during the last 12 years to get these electrolytes to optimal range.

Didn't bother with urine or saliva, since I assume that's just the bodies way to regulate. My only 2 urine analysis meassurements in 2015 were accordingly highly fluctuating: 3.8 and 7.

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by pamojja » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:42 am

DiverDown2 wrote:Ascorbic Acid has a PH value of approximately 2


Deluted in water the pH will be higher. Also each body oneself produces gastric acid with an undeluded pH equal to ascorbic acid. In one day a whole 1.5 liter (~ 1.5 kg) of it!

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by DiverDown2 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:42 am

pamojja. No Sir not telling you that.
Blood PH is the Gold Standard!!!
I was just wondering if my Blood PH is Good, Does it Not matter what my Urine or Saliva PH is ?

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by Lemon Planet » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:01 pm

I just got my pH paper an ran many tests. My urine pH yesterday varied between 5.5 and 6.8 while the saliva pH varied between 5.8 and 7.0 during the day. I saw the pH drop after eating a piece of cherry pie and then go back up later in the day. I checked 10 times yesterday with the test strips.

This morning I tried 1/2 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate and the pH went up from 5.8 to over 7 where the strips don't differentiate. I ordered some different strips to show more above pH 7.

I don't know what the numbers signify either. The urine numbers probably just show the acids removed from the body. The saliva should be more useful if done right. The problem of eating and drinking would affect the numbers and getting a good color from the blob of saliva was difficult.

My urine test sent to a lab about a year ago showed a pH of 6.5 after fasting for the testing with a normal range of 5.0 to 7.5. There must be a lot of variation with an average being more useful so one test wouldn't show much. The blood test then checked many things except showed no pH results. That was probably in the normal range then.

Both my urine and saliva react to adding sodium bicarbonate except the blood must stay about the same unless there was a serious problem as explained by pamojja.

I am probably going to continue with the added sodium bicarbonate. A study in India found that to be good for the kidneys and CKD after a 6 and 9 months of supplementation: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32269432/
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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by Saw » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:16 pm

I played with the ph paper 10 years ago and with an ultra clean diet
and regular vitamin C dosing (18+ grams/day AA) my urine was always
extremely acid and saliva was extremely alkaline.
Even a Blind Squirrel makes his own vitamin C.

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by DiverDown2 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:05 am

Lemon Planet,
I used "Justfitter PH" strips from Amazon, they seem to work good and have a large range.
Their web site says the Urine test is more accurate than the Saliva. A lot of info about low PH seems to be the cause of a lot of disease, including Cancer. That is why i got interested in checking and by the strips i was low, now with Sodium Bicarbonate ( 1/2 teaspoon daily ) it stays in the 6.7 - 7.0 range. The next labs i will check Blood PH.

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by eDOC » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:34 am

DiverDown2 wrote: Does it Not matter what my Urine or Saliva PH is ?


Correct DiverDown2, yes it does matter. The more apart better. Years ago I checked mine, salivary was +7.0 and Urinary 6.0. ABG was 7.4.

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by DiverDown2 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:04 pm

eDoc
Did you ever get a chance to look at my latest Protocol to see if any changes needed?

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by eDOC » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:19 pm

DiverDown2,
Apologize for the delays, treating COVID is keeping me occupied.
Hopefully would email in a couple of days.
Stay safe and healthy!

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Re: Ascorbic acid and your PH

Post by eDOC » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:16 am

DiverDown2 wrote:eDoc
Did you ever get a chance to look at my latest Protocol to see if any changes needed?



New Protocol sent.

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