Vitamin Overload

[johnor]

Owen,

I have followed your advice on adding Vitamin E to my regimen. I used Unique-E from the Vitamin Shoppe. I am taking 400 mg per day. It does have a beneficial effect on me - improved memory and attention span. However, after a few days it seems to effect my sleep time. I don't seem to be able to sleep much at all. The brain is working overtime all night long. Do you have any solution for this. I am trying only taking it once or twice a week. So far that seems better.

Thanks.
John

[ofonorow]

Owen,

I have followed your advice on adding Vitamin E to my regimen. I used Unique-E from the Vitamin Shoppe. I am taking 400 mg per day. It does have a beneficial effect on me - improved memory and attention span. However, after a few days it seems to effect my sleep time. I don't seem to be able to sleep much at all. The brain is working overtime all night long. Do you have any solution for this. I am trying only taking it once or twice a week. So far that seems better.

Thanks.
John :D

Do you mean 400 iu? The recommended dosage is 2000 iu or 5 - 400 iu pills in the a.m.

Inability to sleep is a common side effect of many prescription drugs, especially the statins. Are you on any drugs at this time?

As I have mentioned previously, I read a book on the Miracle of Melatonin more than 10 years ago by Regalson. This book convinced me that melatonin, like other natural hormones, declines with age leading to sleep problems after age 40. My wife and I have been following Regalson's advice for 10 years. We sleep like babies, and my wife can tell when we take an inferior brand of melatonin. This is an orthomolecular therapy.

I hope that the previous "I can't sleep after taking high vitamin C" forum discussion is still available via the search. That discussion might also aid you. I have never heard of such a symptom with vitamin E,
especially uniqu-E, and you might contact the A. C. Grace company to see what they know/suggest and report back. Thx

[jman]

What brands of Melatonin are high quality?

[johnor]

Dear Owen,

Thanks for the reply. It is 400 IUs that I am taking. I fear 2000 IU would be insomnia city for me. I have repeated this experiment often with E. I love the positive effects it has but the sleep problem always seems to manifest after a few days with it. The same happens with the B-complex vitamins.

I took melatonin in the past and it seemed to work but only for a while. I'll try it again.

I am not taking any prescription medication at all. Not even baby aspirin.

I'll give A.C. Grace a look as well.

Other people I have spoken to and participated in forums with have this overload problem. I have no ready theory for it. Someone suggested that our livers couldn't process daily vitamins and just to use the vitamins on a random basis.

Thanks again.
John

[ofonorow]

Dear Owen,
Other people I have spoken to and participated in forums with have this overload problem. I have no ready theory for it. Someone suggested that our livers couldn't process daily vitamins and just to use the vitamins on a random basis.
John :D

Huh? You may have some difficulty, but some vitamin E should be taken every day - even 20 iu.

Not taking vitamin E is the best way to induce a heart attack.

We know that low serum vitamin E is a 70% better predictor of heart attack than either high blood pressure or high cholesterol - according to epidemiologists at the World Health Org (WHO). This according to the author Sinatra.

Have you tried changing brands of B-complex with the same results?

[johnor]

Dear Owen,

I don't know if I have been getting the bare minimum amount of Vitamin E per day or not. I have a similar problem with the B vitamins.

Thanks.
John

[ascorbicjoe]

Dear Owen,
Other people I have spoken to and participated in forums with have this overload problem. I have no ready theory for it. Someone suggested that our livers couldn't process daily vitamins and just to use the vitamins on a random basis.
John

Huh? You may have some difficulty, but some vitamin E should be taken every day - even 20 iu.

Not taking vitamin E is the best way to induce a heart attack.

We know that low serum vitamin E is a 70% better predictor of heart attack than either high blood pressure or high cholesterol - according to epidemiologists at the World Health Org (WHO). This according to the author Sinatra.

Have you tried changing brands of B-complex with the same results?

Are you saying that low Vitamin E is worse than having low Vitamin C? I understand that E and C work somewhat like a water brigade to move free radicals out of the body. Radical attaches to E, then moved to C and out the renal system.

However, are we saying the even with plenty of V-C you will still have severe heart disease? This seems to break a bit from the V-C theory of heart disease.

Most with low E would most certainly have low C. How many vitamin users do use both C and E?

As for dosage, I have moved up from 400IU to 800IU (Natural E). Should I move up to 1600IU or more? Why so much E?

Thanks for any explanation.

[ofonorow]

I suspect that more vitamin E is needed the less vitamin C is taken in the diet.

The report that low serum vitamin E is highly correlated with heart attack, and that low blood serum vitamin E a much better predictor for such an event than either high blood pressure or high cholesterol has been "buried" by conventional medicine. Also, because most of the population is on a low-vitamin C intake, this WHO finding does nothing by itself to obviate the Pauling/Rath unified theory.

Note that if you follow Linus Pauling's 1986 advice - you are covered.

[Dolev]

Ascorbic joe,

Why did you go up to 800 IU of E? More should only be necessary if you have angina pectoris and/or intermittant claudication or some other obvious manifestation of heart disease.

Dolev

[ofonorow]

Ascorbic joe,

Why did you go up to 800 IU of E? More should only be necessary if you have angina pectoris and/or intermittant claudication or some other obvious manifestation of heart disease.

Dolev

With some brands, people will notice taking more than 800 iu, even less. Racing heartbeat, etc.

With A. C. Grace, most people can take 3200 iu of their Unique-E, and not notice any side effects. The late owner of the company recommended 2000 iu, and this is the amount that seems to reverse bad EKG readings on demand.

We have seen another (buried) report of a study that found the optimal antioxidant effect with oral vitamin E was at 3200 iu (top of the curve).

Why do you think 800 iu is necessarily optimal?

[ascorbicjoe]

Ascorbic joe,

Why did you go up to 800 IU of E? More should only be necessary if you have angina pectoris and/or intermittant claudication or some other obvious manifestation of heart disease.

Dolev

I rechecked Paulings HTLLAFB and it showed 800IU. I figured that I would change. I have no health problems, I would say I feel better than ever, since using vitamins more aggressively.

[Dolev]

I'm laughing at myself. One of the first times I think someone is taking a larger-than-necessary amount of a vitamin

[ofonorow]

What is the vitamin E deficiency disease?

[hyperascorbemic]

What is the vitamin E deficiency disease?

Fetal reabsorption, if I remember correctly.

[Dolev]