Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial prob

What is vitamin C? Is there such a thing as a vitamin C complex? Why do so many people now believe in the complex?

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Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial prob

Post by ofonorow » Wed May 01, 2013 8:34 am

http://www.naturalnews.com/z040147_vitamin_C_ascorbic_acid_synthetic_vitamins.html
Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial probiotic bacteria in the gut and cannot confer vitamin activity in the body

Here we go again..

my submission to Natural News
We at the Vitamin C Foundation are concerned that the once highly respected Natural News would publish provably false information about vitamin C. Almost every sentence in this article has false statements or other errors. It is nothing short of an outright lie, and we wonder how such a thing could have gotten past Natural News editors? Long ago we published a White Paper to attempt to keep the record straight about vitamin C - ascorbic acid. (If Vitamin C isn't ascorbic acid, then you have to deal with the idea that 2-time Nobel prize winning chemist Linus Pauling was entirely wrong.) See: http://vitamincfoundation.org/NaturalC.htm


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Re: Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial

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Re: Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial

Post by ofonorow » Sun May 05, 2013 12:28 pm

Looking at Real C's products,
http://www.realvitaminc.com/ingredients.html

Assuming they went through the testing to determine how much vitamin C was in their serving - 125 mg (how was that tested again if ascorbic acid isn't vitamin C?) Maybe they are saying that they include 125 mg of "acerola cherry fruit, black currant fruit, orange fruit and grapefruit juice."? But lets give them the benefit of a doubt - that they have 125 mg of their magical, ill defined vitamin C per serving.

There are 90 servings, so at most the product contains 11.25 grams of vitamin C.

One bottle is $40 dollars.

That is over $3.55 cents per gram! (And you thought livonlabs.com Lypo-C was expensive!)

Maybe we are underpriced? We sell one jar 300 g of Vitamin C Foundation approved vitamin C for $26 on autoship.

At their price, realtivaminccom a 300 gram jar would sell for $1,065!!
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Re: Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial

Post by ofonorow » Mon May 06, 2013 10:44 am

http://www.natural-health-and-healing.com/Natural_Alternatives-natural-alternatives-backissue3.html

Another reference, and unless they change it, they begin by offering your a "worm" welcome...

Here is the relevant vitamin C material, which at least is more detailed! The culprit behind the antibiotic claim has a name!
Alan Meyer, the founder of AGM Foods near Brisbane, Australia and a noted authority on microbes.
Here is a fact that may surprise many people.

Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, will kill friendly microbes. This was noticed and repeatedly verified by Alan Meyer, the founder of AGM Foods near Brisbane, Australia and a noted authority on microbes.

Alan was following an old recipe to produce some sort of fermented apple concoction. The recipe called for apple juice. Alan purchased a bottle of organic apple juice. According to the label, there was nothing in it but organic apples. Yet it killed the microbes. Several times this happened. Alan then called the manufacturer, and after questioning he discovered that ascorbic acid had been added to the organic apple juice as a preservative because it kills bacteria and is cheap. Unfortunately, it does not simply kill bad bacteria, for it gets the good, the bad and the ugly.

Since that time, Alan has repeatedly verified that sufficient concentrations of synthetic vitamin C will kill our beneficial bacteria. There has been considerable controversy over the years as to whether synthetic vitamin C is a blessing or a curse. Its proponents claim all sorts of benefits from its use, while its critics attribute all sorts of damage to its use. Both sides can produce apparently sensible arguments. But based on the one fact that synthetic vitamin C will kill our friendly microbes, it would seem to me that the entire debate becomes quite pointless. Whether or not it is doing any direct harm to our own tissues, the fact that it is destroying our gut flora makes it indisputably detrimental to our health.


Off to google Alan Meyer!
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Re: Synthetic vitamin C, or ascorbic acid, kills beneficial

Post by ofonorow » Mon May 06, 2013 10:49 am

These same identical words are found over and over doing a google query - (there must be some type of copyright infringement) - but I cannot find out if an Alan Meyer even exists or lived or published anything about this? I would appreciate any help locating the writings of Alan Meyer!

Maybe I'll try to find the web site of that food maker in Australia..


So here is the source from AGM web site



http://www.agmfoods.com/contents/en-us/d3.html

Q: I read somewhere that ascorbic acid kills the beneficial bacteria in Grainfields. Does Rosehip tea have the same effect or is it safe?
Natural sources of Vitamin C such as Rosehips have great health benefits and no detrimental effects at all on the Lactobacilli or good gut flora in Grainfields. It is only the artificially made ascorbic acid that has been a problem in the past. Alan Meyer the formulator of Grainfields made the discovery years ago when trying to ferment some organic apple juice that the ascorbic acid it contained killed his microbes. Since then he has made improvements to make the bacteria more resistant to and able to survive the use of artificial forms of Vitamin C. However It is best to try and use natural sources of Vitamin C rather than artificial wherever possible.



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That raises the question, how are bacteria used for fermentation related to the friendly flora in the gut.
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