Air contamination of Vitamin C

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Air contamination of Vitamin C

Post Number:#1  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:14 pm

For someone whos vitamin C solution, mixed from powder, was not mixed in a cleanroom or sterile environment, just a normal house, is there risk of contamination. I.e. can air particles be dangerous? Do millipore filters catch this stuff?

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Re: Air contamination of Vitamin C

Post Number:#2  Post by eDOC » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:50 pm

No.......None.
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Post Number:#3  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:02 pm

Why do you say no?

The nurses advise me to not even pull back saline flushes with the cap off because of air contamination.

I'd appreciate a more lengthy explanation, thanks.

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Post Number:#4  Post by eDOC » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:16 pm

I take 80gms IVC once a month, in my kitchen with no issues for the last 7 years...trying to make a few more buck & nuisance values.........
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Post Number:#5  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:29 pm

Right, but I'm not talking about taking the IV in the kitchen. I am talking about if the powder was exposed to normal air while mixing it into sterile water for the IV. Big difference.

I'm not concerned about where I am when the drip is hooked up, I'm concerned that if the iv solution was prepared in a non-sterile environment, i.e. powder jar opened and put into the vial in a non-sterile environment, does that pose a major risk?

I think we need to be very careful about what we say "no, that's fine" to on here without understanding fully the situation.

Are you saying you mix your own IVC in the kitchen, or that you have some bioniche or other pre-prepared vial that you administer in the kitchen. Those are two very different things.

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Post Number:#6  Post by eDOC » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:38 pm

The VC powder that I use for myself is exposed to normal air, before I make the IV. Before infusing check the ph & is mostly 8.0.

I make my own IVC in my my kitchen in a totally non sterile conditions vs an operating room or an ICU.....not once but monthly for the last 7 years.....

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Post Number:#7  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:43 pm

Yup, that is helpful.

Would you mind talking a bit about your process, condition and results? You could do it in a PM to me if you like.

I am interested in finding out not only how you go about your mixing/administration, but also if you've had any adverse reactions, etc.

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Post Number:#8  Post by eDOC » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:06 pm

Great.

No PM needed......

No adverse reactions in 7 years.

Mixing.....I have my own techniques & methods.......

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Post Number:#9  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:09 pm

Ok.

I was hoping you could share a bit more, but if you don't feel comfortable doing so, I respect that.

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Post Number:#10  Post by eDOC » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:10 am

No worries & issues.

Do you want to know how I make the IVC........is that correct?
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Post Number:#11  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:31 pm

Yea, just your process... e.g. if you use sterile vials, what kind of drip, if you use magnetic stirrer, etc.

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Post Number:#12  Post by eDOC » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:11 am

Would it be fine, if my secretary PMs you the detailed procedure that we have been using for the last 7 years?
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Post Number:#13  Post by jamesLdavis1 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:43 pm

Absolutely. That's great.

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Post Number:#14  Post by eDOC » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:34 pm

PM sent: Dr. Michelle.
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Re: Air contamination of Vitamin C

Post Number:#15  Post by ofonorow » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:42 am

jamesLdavis1 wrote:For someone whos vitamin C solution, mixed from powder, was not mixed in a cleanroom or sterile environment, just a normal house, is there risk of contamination. I.e. can air particles be dangerous? Do millipore filters catch this stuff?


Dr Cathcart claimed the 50/50 stock solution - 50% sodium ascorbate - is germicidal. Kills everything, and he didn't even use microfilters in his many years of practice, over 20,000 patients, etc. I recently met an Indian doctor here at our store (he was visiting from India - on way to Riordan Clinic) who told me exactly the same thing. 50/50 stock solution kills everything. Is self sterilizing.

Now, I still don't really understand why the milder solutions, such as BioNiche, are clear, while the more effective Cathcart like sodium ascorbate solutions are yellow.
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