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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#106  Post by ofonorow » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:42 am

More lies!!

https://www.fitandwell.com/features/what-vitamins-should-not-be-taken-together

s. “Vitamin C and Vitamin B12 are another pair of vitamins that may be best taken apart as Vitamin C reduces the absorption of Vitamin B12.


This phony research by Victor Herbert was debunked as long ago as 1986, when Pauling wrote HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER.


And today was a two-fer for BS. Here is another deliberately deceitful article

In almost all cases,vitamin and mineral supplements are not helpful
https://www.kpcnews.com/columnists/arti ... 71546.html

Among the lies is this widely reported, false news story, about beta carotene and cancer.

Taking extra beta carotene is associated with an increase in the risk of CVD death, as well as an increased incidence of lung cancer in smokers and those with occupational exposure to asbestos.


The real story is that a YALE group reevaluated the same Finish data, and came to the OPPOSITE conclusion as the original researchers. In other words the fear of beta carotene has been debunked by some of the best scientists in the world. This was never published widely by the mainstream media.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#107  Post by ofonorow » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:44 am

article with more untruths..

Does vitamin c cause chest pain?
https://www.dane101.com/does-vitamin-c-cause-chest-pain/


and this article referring to a flawed study should be changed to taking LOW DOSES of vitamin C did not alter the course of COVID.
https://lancasteronline.com/opinion/columnists/praise-for-local-volunteers-who-aided-covid-19-study-column/article_75a5fc72-1f21-11ed-ad7d-4f9656bc0de0.html
What the researchers found was patients taking 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C saw no change in the course of their infection, compared to those taking a placebo.
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Post Number:#108  Post by ofonorow » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:37 am

Propagating the Vitamin C "can't treat sepsis" BIG LIE throughout the medical profession...

Recent Neurology Data Highlight Treatments to Avoid
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/978463

No Role for Vitamin C in Treating Sepsis in the Intensive Care Unit.
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Post Number:#109  Post by ofonorow » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:30 am

Who are those guys? This web site never gives up... Probably worth a deep dive to determine who owns it...

I'm a Doctor and This Vitamin is the #1 Worst Waste of Money
https://www.eatthis.com/these-vitamins-are-the-worst-waste-of-money/

Dr. Curry-Winchell tells us, "Vitamins are important, but they can cause harm. Your body naturally makes most vitamins such as D and K — so taking extras can put your health at risk. Most often people take too many vitamins to improve their health and/or treat a condition leading to more harm than good. It's important to note, vitamins are not regulated by the FDA for their safety and effectiveness or marketing practices before they are placed on store shelves."


Total BS! Supplements are HIGHLY regulated, so much so that a single error on a supplement label can lead to a fine of hundreds of millions of dollars. Pauling genius informed us that generally, taking too many vitamins is harmless (unlike minerals).

Dr. Curry-Winchell emphasizes, "Vitamin C is a huge part of your diet. Taking extra doses can cause several adverse effects such as headache and vomiting."


If the "huge part of the diet" were only true. And why do competent authorities say that more than 40% of the population is vitamin C deficient (show signs of scurvy?)
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Post Number:#110  Post by Saw » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:15 pm

Dr. Curry-Winchell emphasizes, "Vitamin C is a huge part of your diet. Taking extra doses can cause several adverse effects such as headache and vomiting."


That's a good one, pity she didn't provide any citations :(

Anyway I took the bait and had to look her up to see what she stands for...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/state-and ... rollout/#x
Even a Blind Squirrel makes his own vitamin C.

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Post Number:#112  Post by ofonorow » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:13 am

Thanks. Basically they are hiding behind a privacy wall.

Inspiration. Maybe we should create a "fact checking" organization, on the order of the Foundation, but devoted to the real science of nutrition? I'll add it to our list :-)
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Post Number:#113  Post by Qimualaniq656 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:54 am

What about this one?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447163/

I can't tell who funded it.

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Post Number:#114  Post by ofonorow » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:28 am

Great question. Per their conclusion

Vitamin C supplementation is associated with accelerated early atherosclerosis measured by carotid IMT compared to a protective association with vitamin C from food. T


Either Linus Pauling was wrong, or there is something wrong with this study (which we analyzed and wrote about back in 2012).

The carotid IMT measure is the problem. Collagen production that makes the artery healthier can also increase IMT.
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Post Number:#115  Post by Qimualaniq656 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:12 am

Thank you I will look up carotid IMT. I did a search on "Differing Relations to Early Atherosclerosis" on this forum, and got nothing. I'd like to read that discussion from 2012.

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Post Number:#116  Post by ofonorow » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:39 am

Unfortunately, the forum is pruned, but I may have written an article about this... When I find it, I will post the link. TODO LIST
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Post Number:#117  Post by ofonorow » Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:30 am

This looks like a rehash of the "study" that has already been debunked.
Vitamin C infusion does not stave off death, organ dysfunction in ICU-admitted patients with sepsis
https://specialty.mims.com/topic/vitamin-c-infusion-does-not-stave-off-death--organ-dysfunction-in-icu-admitted-patients-with-sepsis

People with sepsis don't die on vitamin C, only after it has been stopped.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#118  Post by ofonorow » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:33 am




Most dietary supplements are a waste of money. Here are the ones to take, and what you should avoid.





https://news.yahoo.com/most-dietary-supplements-waste-money-154807550.html
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Post Number:#119  Post by Saw » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:38 pm

ofonorow wrote:


Most dietary supplements are a waste of money. Here are the ones to take, and what you should avoid.









https://news.yahoo.com/most-dietary-supplements-waste-money-154807550.html

A man in Australia lost his ability to walk after taking 70 times the recommended amount of vitamin B6


A man in Australia lost his ability to walk after consuming 70 times the recommended daily dose of vitamin B6, ABC Radio Melbourne reported.

The 86-year-old man had previously been active and lived independently, his daughter Alison Taylor told ABC Radio, until a blood test revealed he had a slight deficiency in vitamin B6.

Taylor said her father didn't have any symptoms of poor health, but his doctor prescribed a 50-milligram vitamin B6 supplement to up his levels. Vitamin B6, like other B vitamins, helps the body convert food into energy by breaking down carbs and protein. Research suggests it can help the body's immune system and certain brain functions.


50 mg you say. Common to buy in 100mg.

What other in depth journalism does this reporter do...
https://www.insider.com/author/allana-akhtar

Oh looky looky this is a big one, Wow so thats what going on!!!...
https://www.insider.com/cardiologist-su ... ple-2022-9
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#120  Post by ofonorow » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:34 am

Fact Check: High-Dose Intravenous Vitamin C Is NOT A Proven Alternative To Chemotherapy That 'Will Kill Cancer Cells'

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/09/fact-check-high-dose-vitamin-c-does-not-cure-cancer.html

The text is more reasonable than the headline.



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