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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#61  Post by ofonorow » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:00 am

blue mustang wrote:I think ill just try a balanced diet for now, except take c, I took a (1/4 or a 1/4) or 1/16 about tsp of ascorbate in 1/4 cup of water, didnt really notice anything it seems better maybe because its diluted. I might consider taking more vitamins in the future.


Yet, you claim to have read Pauling's HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER, and still you rely on food for your requirements? I note that you are young (you said 25 years-of-age, correct), but even so, you must be on a hell of a diet, from soils not depleted and from plants not from diminished sun-light, etc. During the Korean war, our soldiers (and not the young Koreans) were found to already have heart disease (atherosclerosis)

As far as the drone of propganda, here is our daily dose...

No, Vitamin C won’t cure your cold
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/2/20895641/ ... ure-a-cold

Many people reach straight for the orange juice when they start to get a cold. Or pick up a Vitamin C supplement that claims to boost your immune system.

But studies have shown that Vitamin C can’t actually cure your cold.

At most, taking 1,000 mg of Vitamin C regularly could reduce your cold by a meager 8 percent. Taking it when your symptoms begin doesn’t really do anything at all. Generally, it only has an effect on people engaged in “intense physical exercise,” like marathon runners. But for regular people, it’s not much help.

So where did the belief in Vitamin C as a cold-buster come from? A Nobel Prize-winning scientist from the 1970s
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#62  Post by ofonorow » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:46 am

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#63  Post by ofonorow » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:16 am

High doses of water-soluble vitamins may be harmful
https://www.villages-news.com/2019/10/27/high-doses-of-water-soluble-vitamins-may-be-harmful/

I don't think I've seen one article with so many lies.

It is well-known that taking large doses of the fat-soluble vitamins — A, D, E and K — can harm you


Large doses of vitamin D have been shown to increase risk for bone fractures


large doses of vitamin A are associated with increased risk for lung cancer in smokers


You may also be harmed by large doses of the water-soluble B vitamins (folate, thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid, biotin, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12) or vitamin C (Int J Cancer, 2010;127(1):172-184).

Dr. Gabe Mirkin is a Villager.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#64  Post by johnjackson » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:03 am

what is irking me is you quoted Dr Mirken and I followed him(since my dad did) all growing up

The absurdity about what the media gives the public about the HORRORS of vit C is hard to overcome, even in those who try
I have a buddy who is t1D and on a low carb diet, high fat..and rarely eats veggies.,.. Im trying educated him on VIt C and how it is required to make collagen.
after a period of sending him Owen's stuff, Humphries video and other Levey links, he came up to me at work, whilst I was taking my vit C and he said, you know, diet/exercise are more important than vit C"

I asked him why he hasnt read anything i sent him
--I have

-then you, vit C does not directly prevent heart attacks, but makes collagen,that inhibits lp(a) and repairs arteries and prevents plaque formation, along with lysine.
--oh, i didnt get that far.

My point is Trying to overcome the Daily Propaganda which is against vit C and WATER SOLUABLE vitamins is hard to do, might even take some foundation in science.
/www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154.php


medcraveonline.com/JCCR/JCCR-09-00341.php

//riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#65  Post by johnjackson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:38 am

This article/study pretty well describes formation of a plaque that is trying to heal the artery and then grows(due to lp(a) via LBS?)

-----"Working with specially bred Ldlr mice that were fed a Western diet, the team found that "platelets drive atherogenesis by skewing plaque macrophages into an inflammatory phenotype."


-->>>the article does not explain WHY this happens or how to prevent if from occurring..... didnt pauling/rath talk about lack of collagen/vit C back in the Pauling figured this out when? at least 1993?
https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/tag/matthias-rath/


Hardening of the arteries: Platelets, inflammation and a rogue protein conspire against the heart


The Lipid Hypothesis of coronary artery disease has long held that a high level of cholesterol is the causative factor of atherosclerosis, but a group of New York scientists is making a powerful case for platelets as the trigger of an artery-damaging inflammatory response.

Heart disease, a term that refers to a vast number of complex conditions, is most frequently used to define coronary artery disease, or atherosclerosis. The condition is a leading cause of cardiovascular deaths in Western countries and is marked by arterial deposits of plaque, which is composed of cholesterol, fatty material, calcium deposits and a motley collection of biological debris.

Over time, plaque not only hardens, but causes afflicted arteries to narrow, limiting the free flow of oxygen-rich blood. The Lipid Hypothesis, which continues to hold sway, is also known as the Cholesterol Hypothesis. It isn't, however, the entire story of how plaque forms and narrowed arteries set the stage for heart attack and stroke.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-11- ... rogue.html
/www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154.php


medcraveonline.com/JCCR/JCCR-09-00341.php

//riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#66  Post by ofonorow » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:30 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50938250

Propaganda in its purest, most evil form.

How likely is the following explanation?


The deaths were wrongly attributed to the vaccination against measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) - but were actually caused by nurses mixing the vaccine with a muscle relaxant instead of water.


Very likely the outbreak was due to a faulty vaccine, but that fact is cleverly obscured by lie after lie.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#67  Post by mstill » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:20 am

KC chiropractor publicizing IV Vitamin C for coronavirus. Doctors say it's 'dangerous'
https://account.kansascity.com/paywall/ ... =242040291
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Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Vitamin C Foundation or its members. If you are ill, please seek medical attention.

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Post Number:#68  Post by ofonorow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:28 am

My radar tells me that a study positive for vitamin C against covid is on the horizon... My inbox is flooded with anti-vitamin C/covid propaganda stories such as

Health experts: large doses of vitamins during COVID-19 recovery can be harmful
https://cbsaustin.com/news/coronavirus/ ... be-harmful
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Post Number:#69  Post by Lemon Planet » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:36 am

This is really terrible reporting and just more evidence of the lies. Originally titled "Behind the viral craze for vitamin C" on the front page of the 21 July 2020 USATODAY:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/07/21/coronavirus-vitamin-c-demand-surged-during-pandemic/5403847002/

The supposed "health expert" doesn't know anything about Vitamin C. Everything in this article is blatantly wrong. The reporter is totally ignorant or biased and should have found a "Vitamin C" expert or at least done a little reading of the massive literature to get up to speed. I expect the Pauling Institute was misquoted or taken out of context.

Sales of Vitamin C are increasing is a sign people don't believe this propaganda.
Vitamin C: intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent insufficient ascorbic acid.

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Post Number:#70  Post by ofonorow » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:23 am

Maharashtra FDA warns against high doses of Vitamin C
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/maharashtra-fda-warns-against-high-doses-of-vitamin-c/story-9k6W1q2uc29xa8qBaMkwGP.html

I infer this is from India, showing that Big Pharma has infiltrated the FDA organizations around the world.
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Post Number:#71  Post by ofonorow » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:27 pm

FTC Warns 20 More to Stop Marketing Unsupported COVID-19 Treatment
https://www.bctv.org/2020/08/17/ftc-sen ... -treatment

Death By Government

Several of the letters announced today target “treatments” the Commission has warned companies about previously, including intravenous (IV) Vitamin C infusions, ozone therapy, and supplements. Others challenge claims that nasal spray, skincare products, or acupuncture can prevent or treat COVID-19. However, currently there is no scientific evidence that these, or any, products or services can prevent or treat the disease.


We can only hope that the vitamin C studies in progress break the stonewall.
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Post Number:#72  Post by ofonorow » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:45 am

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Post Number:#73  Post by ofonorow » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:08 am

Lies and more lies.

Certain dietary supplements may increase breast cancer recurrence risk and hasten death
https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/di ... ancer-risk
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Post Number:#74  Post by ofonorow » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:33 am

Too Much Vitamin C Is Actually A Bad Thing
https://www.wfxb.com/2021/02/04/too-muc ... bad-thing/
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#75  Post by ofonorow » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:34 am

CNN OF COURSE! Vitamin C, zinc don't lessen Covid-19 symptoms, study finds - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/health/vitamin-c-zinc-covid-19-wellness/index.html

update: Looking at the data in the paper, vitamin C and zinc shortened the period of being sick by at least 1 day or roughly 25%
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