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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:42 am

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:44 am

article with more untruths..

Does vitamin c cause chest pain?
https://www.dane101.com/does-vitamin-c-cause-chest-pain/


and this article referring to a flawed study should be changed to taking LOW DOSES of vitamin C did not alter the course of COVID.
https://lancasteronline.com/opinion/columnists/praise-for-local-volunteers-who-aided-covid-19-study-column/article_75a5fc72-1f21-11ed-ad7d-4f9656bc0de0.html
What the researchers found was patients taking 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C saw no change in the course of their infection, compared to those taking a placebo.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:37 am

Propagating the Vitamin C "can't treat sepsis" BIG LIE throughout the medical profession...

Recent Neurology Data Highlight Treatments to Avoid
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/978463

No Role for Vitamin C in Treating Sepsis in the Intensive Care Unit.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by Saw » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:15 pm

Dr. Curry-Winchell emphasizes, "Vitamin C is a huge part of your diet. Taking extra doses can cause several adverse effects such as headache and vomiting."


That's a good one, pity she didn't provide any citations :(

Anyway I took the bait and had to look her up to see what she stands for...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/state-and ... rollout/#x
Even a Blind Squirrel makes his own vitamin C.

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:13 am

Thanks. Basically they are hiding behind a privacy wall.

Inspiration. Maybe we should create a "fact checking" organization, on the order of the Foundation, but devoted to the real science of nutrition? I'll add it to our list :-)
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by Qimualaniq656 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:54 am

What about this one?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447163/

I can't tell who funded it.

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:28 am

Great question. Per their conclusion

Vitamin C supplementation is associated with accelerated early atherosclerosis measured by carotid IMT compared to a protective association with vitamin C from food. T


Either Linus Pauling was wrong, or there is something wrong with this study (which we analyzed and wrote about back in 2012).

The carotid IMT measure is the problem. Collagen production that makes the artery healthier can also increase IMT.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by Qimualaniq656 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:12 am

Thank you I will look up carotid IMT. I did a search on "Differing Relations to Early Atherosclerosis" on this forum, and got nothing. I'd like to read that discussion from 2012.

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:39 am

Unfortunately, the forum is pruned, but I may have written an article about this... When I find it, I will post the link. TODO LIST
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:30 am

This looks like a rehash of the "study" that has already been debunked.
Vitamin C infusion does not stave off death, organ dysfunction in ICU-admitted patients with sepsis
https://specialty.mims.com/topic/vitamin-c-infusion-does-not-stave-off-death--organ-dysfunction-in-icu-admitted-patients-with-sepsis

People with sepsis don't die on vitamin C, only after it has been stopped.
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:33 am




Most dietary supplements are a waste of money. Here are the ones to take, and what you should avoid.





https://news.yahoo.com/most-dietary-supplements-waste-money-154807550.html
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by Saw » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:38 pm

ofonorow wrote:


Most dietary supplements are a waste of money. Here are the ones to take, and what you should avoid.









https://news.yahoo.com/most-dietary-supplements-waste-money-154807550.html

A man in Australia lost his ability to walk after taking 70 times the recommended amount of vitamin B6


A man in Australia lost his ability to walk after consuming 70 times the recommended daily dose of vitamin B6, ABC Radio Melbourne reported.

The 86-year-old man had previously been active and lived independently, his daughter Alison Taylor told ABC Radio, until a blood test revealed he had a slight deficiency in vitamin B6.

Taylor said her father didn't have any symptoms of poor health, but his doctor prescribed a 50-milligram vitamin B6 supplement to up his levels. Vitamin B6, like other B vitamins, helps the body convert food into energy by breaking down carbs and protein. Research suggests it can help the body's immune system and certain brain functions.


50 mg you say. Common to buy in 100mg.

What other in depth journalism does this reporter do...
https://www.insider.com/author/allana-akhtar

Oh looky looky this is a big one, Wow so thats what going on!!!...
https://www.insider.com/cardiologist-su ... ple-2022-9
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post by ofonorow » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:34 am

Fact Check: High-Dose Intravenous Vitamin C Is NOT A Proven Alternative To Chemotherapy That 'Will Kill Cancer Cells'

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/09/fact-check-high-dose-vitamin-c-does-not-cure-cancer.html

The text is more reasonable than the headline.



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