Vitamin C Forum

Are the supplements you're taking actually doing anything?

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/life/grateful/2019/10/04/vitamins-and-supplements-how-know-if-theyre-working/3826486002/

what is irking me is you quoted Dr Mirken and I followed him(since my dad did) all growing up

The absurdity about what the media gives the public about the HORRORS of vit C is hard to overcome, even in those who try
I have a buddy who is t1D and on a low carb diet, high fat..and rarely eats veggies.,.. Im trying educated him on VIt C and how it is required to make collagen.
after a period of sending him Owen's stuff, Humphries video and other Levey links, he came up to me at work, whilst I was taking my vit C and he said, you know, diet/exercise are more important than vit C"

I asked him why he hasnt read anything i sent him
--I have

-then you, vit C does not directly prevent heart attacks, but makes collagen,that inhibits lp(a) and repairs arteries and prevents plaque formation, along with lysine.
--oh, i didnt get that far.

My point is Trying to overcome the Daily Propaganda which is against vit C and WATER SOLUABLE vitamins is hard to do, might even take some foundation in science.

This article/study pretty well describes formation of a plaque that is trying to heal the artery and then grows(due to lp(a) via LBS?)

-----"Working with specially bred Ldlr mice that were fed a Western diet, the team found that "platelets drive atherogenesis by skewing plaque macrophages into an inflammatory phenotype."


-->>>the article does not explain WHY this happens or how to prevent if from occurring..... didnt pauling/rath talk about lack of collagen/vit C back in the Pauling figured this out when? at least 1993?
https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/tag/matthias-rath/


Hardening of the arteries: Platelets, inflammation and a rogue protein conspire against the heart


The Lipid Hypothesis of coronary artery disease has long held that a high level of cholesterol is the causative factor of atherosclerosis, but a group of New York scientists is making a powerful case for platelets as the trigger of an artery-damaging inflammatory response.

Heart disease, a term that refers to a vast number of complex conditions, is most frequently used to define coronary artery disease, or atherosclerosis. The condition is a leading cause of cardiovascular deaths in Western countries and is marked by arterial deposits of plaque, which is composed of cholesterol, fatty material, calcium deposits and a motley collection of biological debris.

Over time, plaque not only hardens, but causes afflicted arteries to narrow, limiting the free flow of oxygen-rich blood. The Lipid Hypothesis, which continues to hold sway, is also known as the Cholesterol Hypothesis. It isn't, however, the entire story of how plaque forms and narrowed arteries set the stage for heart attack and stroke.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-11- ... rogue.html

KC chiropractor publicizing IV Vitamin C for coronavirus. Doctors say it's 'dangerous'
https://account.kansascity.com/paywall/ ... =242040291

My radar tells me that a study positive for vitamin C against covid is on the horizon... My inbox is flooded with anti-vitamin C/covid propaganda stories such as

Health experts: large doses of vitamins during COVID-19 recovery can be harmful
https://cbsaustin.com/news/coronavirus/ ... be-harmful

This is really terrible reporting and just more evidence of the lies. Originally titled "Behind the viral craze for vitamin C" on the front page of the 21 July 2020 USATODAY:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/07/21/coronavirus-vitamin-c-demand-surged-during-pandemic/5403847002/

The supposed "health expert" doesn't know anything about Vitamin C. Everything in this article is blatantly wrong. The reporter is totally ignorant or biased and should have found a "Vitamin C" expert or at least done a little reading of the massive literature to get up to speed. I expect the Pauling Institute was misquoted or taken out of context.

Sales of Vitamin C are increasing is a sign people don't believe this propaganda.

Maharashtra FDA warns against high doses of Vitamin C
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/maharashtra-fda-warns-against-high-doses-of-vitamin-c/story-9k6W1q2uc29xa8qBaMkwGP.html

I infer this is from India, showing that Big Pharma has infiltrated the FDA organizations around the world.

Medical myths: Vitamins and supplements
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/medical-myths-vitamins-and-supplements#6.-Vitamin-D-prevents-cancer

Too Much Vitamin C Is Actually A Bad Thing
https://www.wfxb.com/2021/02/04/too-muc ... bad-thing/

CNN OF COURSE! Vitamin C, zinc don't lessen Covid-19 symptoms, study finds - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/health/vitamin-c-zinc-covid-19-wellness/index.html

update: Looking at the data in the paper, vitamin C and zinc shortened the period of being sick by at least 1 day or roughly 25%.