Orthopathy forum diet/HRT

[johnjackson]

Low fat Forum.
Before I came here, I was over here at Peak Testosterone forum.
Where they worship low fat gurus/ high nitrate diets/and HRT so older men can have sex(science based)
they dont believe in Pauling therapy or you need more than 1gram vit C/day
They dont understand why a plant based diet will reverse CAD, but do believe in many things that are going to help you eat better

they do believe in HRT, that guys who have low testostrone are going to need a boost
they also get mad at the RDA for constantly changing a MD can deem is a low testosrtone man, the ranges have changed a lot in last 10 years


dietarywise i think Owen would love these people.


Why Plant Based Diets Will Eventually Win - Even With Men!
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Why_Pl ... l_Win.aspx

benefits of a low fat diet
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Ornish_Diet.aspx

low fat index
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Low_Fat_Paleo.aspx


I knew the admin, we were friends for years, but he died texting/driving when he ran a stop sign/.
but I'm sure he had great testosterone/estrogen ratio and he did take 4 grams/days vi C

but even so, this site is all about low fat being the cure for CAD, not vit C
so
Dangers of vit C
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Vitamin_C.aspx

WHY TAKE vitamin C
skin
immunity
nitric oxide
mood(see above)
reduce lead
lower CRP
brain(uses AA)

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/why_ta ... min_c.aspx


I was trying to get the admin to get on pauling therapy,andhe seemed to be trying but his board(some MDs) didnt like the idea of vit C doing anything
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/ ... 2#msg86592

[ofonorow]

Long - but great john jackson. In nutshell, why should we believe in any human "science" derived information, when we have Divine, TRUE, knowledge (unless proven otherwise) That Will Never be Overturned

I am going to share another reason I have become rather excited about all this, and I'm sure the people in your forums are experimenters, like Body Builders, they try and know what works, so I have no doubt that their info is interesting, however, for me it will have to wait and I rely on you... Anyway, diabetics tend to have ED. I thought I knew why, nerve damage. Apparently not, after 3 days "Grazing", not only did my ED symptoms resolve, but I had a 3 hour ejection that wouldn't go away.. I started thinking about that Viagra commercial about calling the doctor, but I hadn't taken any pills!? Apparently, it is the FAT clogging cells that cause the penis to expand.. Sorry if this offends.. But who would have thunk..

Low fat Forum.
Before I came here, I was over here at Peak Testosterone forum.
Where they worship low fat gurus/ high nitrate diets/and HRT so older men can have sex(science based)

I can understand, believe me, except for the HRT part - which so far, the Medical Medium says is overblown and we don't have to worry about "hormones." I have watched some very good human naturalist doctors who KNOW that if you start taking testosterone - you are hooked for life, because it will turn off your own production, without any evidence that it can be then revived.

they dont believe in Pauling therapy or you need more than 1 gram vit C/day

They may be right. They may not need it if they limit fat intake. If people followed the Orthopathic Diet, in general, they shouldn't need more than 1 to 3 grams daily, or about what the animals make adjusted for body weight.

They dont understand why a plant based diet will reverse CAD, but do believe in many things that are going to help you eat better

they do believe in HRT, that guys who have low testostrone are going to need a boost
they also get mad at the RDA for constantly changing a MD can deem is a low testosterone man, the ranges have changed a lot in last 10 years

They don't realize how lucky they are, per last paragraph. You can turn off your own testosterone with HRT, and as far as we know, it will not return, placing you dependent on Testosterone injections. There are herbs and medicine that promote your own production of T, and I'll post them later.

dietarywise i think Owen would love these people.

Not two weeks ago I then did not have access to the Truth

Turning it around, I think these people/your friends would LOVE the information from Anthony, especially LIFE-CHANGING FOODS.

Why Plant Based Diets Will Eventually Win - Even With Men!
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Why_Pl ... l_Win.aspx

benefits of a low fat diet
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Ornish_Diet.aspx

low fat index
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Low_Fat_Paleo.aspx


I knew the admin, we were friends for years, but he died texting/driving when he ran a stop sign/.
but I'm sure he had great testosterone/estrogen ratio and he did take 4 grams/days vi C

but even so, this site is all about low fat being the cure for CAD, not vit C
so
Dangers of vit C
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Vitamin_C.aspx

WHY TAKE vitamin C
skin
immunity
nitric oxide
mood(see above)
reduce lead
lower CRP
brain(uses AA)

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/why_ta ... min_c.aspx


I was trying to get the admin to get on pauling therapy,andhe seemed to be trying but his board(some MDs) didnt like the idea of vit C doing anything
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/ ... 2#msg86592

Again, leave the Pauling Therapy to WE future Orthopaths, which I hope will include you.

The effort to improve health and to heal is better aimed at directing the group "to consider as fiction" the Medical Medium books, and ask for them to comment, rather than telling them what it means.

[johnjackson]

Long - but great john jackson. In nutshell, why should we believe in any human "science" derived information, when we have Divine, TRUE, knowledge (unless proven otherwise) That Will Never be Overturned

I am going to share another reason I have become rather excited about all this, and I'm sure the people in your forums are experimenters, like Body Builders, they try and know what works, so I have no doubt that their info is interesting, however, for me it will have to wait and I rely on you... Anyway, diabetics tend to have ED. I thought I knew why, nerve damage. Apparently not, after 3 days "Grazing", not only did my ED symptoms resolve, but I had a 3 hour ejection that wouldn't go away.. I started thinking about that Viagra commercial about calling the doctor, but I hadn't taken any pills!? Apparently, it is the FAT clogging cells that cause the penis to expand.. Sorry if this offends.. But who would have thunk..

too long? wtf?


why believe anything? Is that what you are asking me?

I am not on that forum anymore, not since the admin died

But when I posted about pauling therapy a few times and taking grams of vitamin C, I ended up getting a few messages from guys about how they started taking grams of vit C every few hours and some told tales of healing wounds that MDs thought would take much longer and others just felt better...but nothing negative was ever said from guys who actually took grams of vit C

the forum is very Nitric oxide friendly, since that is all about being a vegaterian is about.

but I used to be friends with a Hindu)(vegetarian) and he would eat bean burritos from taco bell and mushroom pizza/peanut butter and graham crackers
IE NO VEGETABLES

much like this woman
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/99111 ... killed-me/

who went vegan, then ended up only eating soymilk and mash(she's from england, and I googled MASH and it is a dish of sausage and potatoes)
so Im going to assume this "vegetarian" was only eating soy milk and mashed potatoes.
she lists her food and never do I see anything like Vegetables
she ended up being very anemic, because she stopped taking iron pills "they made me constipated"
that's proof enough she is NOT EATING VEGETABLES!

point being:
being vegetarian doesnt mean you are healthy, it means you arent eating meat. vegetarians can soley eat twinkies and pringles and be "vegetarian"

[johnjackson]

they do believe in HRT, that guys who have low testostrone are going to need a boost
they also get mad at the RDA for constantly changing a MD can deem is a low testosterone man, the ranges have changed a lot in last 10 years

They don't realize how lucky they are, per last paragraph. You can turn off your own testosterone with HRT, and as far as we know, it will not return, placing you dependent on Testosterone injections. There are herbs and medicine that promote your own production of T, and I'll post them later.

they arent lucky, they are very knowledgeable
HRT is a two prong attack, it is not just about adding MORE testosterone, it is about controling estrogen as well and these guys know what they are doing and use different drugs to restart testosterone production,(clomid, maybe)
at any rate,I tried to talk about lp(a),. but many things I mentioned fell on deaf ears.

[ofonorow]

The medical medium's divine source says that any focus on HRT is misguided. Black swan, or is this True?

Before starting on the road to enlightenment, I was researching testosterone on youtube, and one very knowledgeable Naturopath, though human-based knowledge, is where I learned about the problem of permanently losing your own ability to make endogenous testosterone, after something like six months on the injections.

And yes, my alt. doc put me "clomid," long ago. Not knowing why at the time, but that is why I remembered that the youtube Naturopath guru included clomid as one of the "good guy" drugs that can be used to cause the body to produce its own testosterone.

Clomid is typically used as an infertility treatment in females. It's not approved by the FDA for use in males, but it's often prescribed off-label for treatment of male infertility. Taking Clomid can lead to an increase in testosterone and sperm count. Studies on its efficacy in males have had mixed results

Asked for other ways to increase endogenous testosterone, the Earth-based Guru mentioned Ashwagandha. I bought some, and that may have had something to do with my renew interest in the far sex.

I was a little blown away to see Ashwagandha among the herbs suggested by the Medical Medium. (Or maybe it was a dream. I believe I saw it among the list of suggested Herbs for some condition. If its there, how did poor Anthony know?)

[pamojja]

I was a little blown away to see Ashwagandha among the herbs suggested by the Medical Medium. (Or maybe it was a dream. I believe I saw it among the list of suggested Herbs for some condition. If its there, how did poor Anthony know?)

I took Ashwagandha and sun-shine for addapting hormones since many years. How did poor me know?

By reading and learning about supplements and life-stlye interventions.


Admittedly, other factors for total testosterone at play too; beside Ashswagandha ext. in mgs, vitamin D in mcg, wholebody-sunshine exposure in hrs, and vitamin D levels. Too many to mention:

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year:   mg  -  mcg  -  hrs  - ng/ml -  TT

2009:       -   50  -       -       -
2010:   70  -  160  -   60  -   63  -  399
2011:  140  -  140  -   60  -   43  -  220
2012:  190  -  300  -   60  -   62  -  262
2013:  760  -  200  -  220  -   84  -  320
2014:  670  -  190  -  220  -   50  -  340
2015:  670  -  210  -  220  -   78  -  351
2016:  680  -  170  -  240  -   72  -  468
2017:  760  -  220  -  340  -  101  -  631
2018:  800  -  170  -  340  -   93  -  681
2019:  780  -  180  -  320  -   85  -  368

[johnjackson]

maybe back in 2013 someone told him?
Ashwagandha
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/ ... pic=2340.0

or more about ashwagandha and cortisol experiences
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/ ... ic=8561.30

[johnjackson]

Vitamin C Summary Page

How can a vitamin be exciting? Well, it may be hard to believe, but that is exactly what Vitamin C is - exciting. Vitamin C has already been shown to be the MOST powerful antiviral with virtually no side effects. Big Pharma simply has no competing product - nothing even close. In addition, Vitamin C look very promising as way to help boost erectile strength, protect against cardiovascular disease and possibly help in the fight against some of the more aggressive cancers. It holds tremendous promise and, as you'll see below, is grossly understudied:

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Vitamin-C.aspx

[ofonorow]

Are you high again john jackson? What does the last post have to do with anything in this topic?
Its a great post - for the vitamin C part of the forum.

Or have you started reading medical medium and are starting to understand that a root of much evil is the Epstein-Barr virus, and thatyes, we Orthomolecularists have an anti-viral tool that modern medicine ignores?

As far as how Anthony knows what he says the SOURCE knows, you can't have it both ways. Sure he could have found a link to Ashwagandha, but so far in my Reading, there is no mention of using it for testosterone - he recommends for a completely different reason. (When you get to it, let me know if that is already known.)

It was just a synchronicity by the N.D. Guru, like the ones you know, who recommended it, and that little uneducated faker Anthony would list it. There are lots of things Anthony lists, and at some point I will start paying closer attention to them.

[johnjackson]

Are you high again john jackson? What does the last post have to do with anything in this topic?
Its a great post - for the vitamin C part of the forum. .

not unless 5grams AA and citrilinie/MG gets you high...well, that might do it tho!! as an increase in NO does so many things!
--it is a link to the lowfat/hrt forum, before the admin(leader ) died, he was on the verge on accepting how great vit C was. I was just pointing that out

Or have you started reading medical medium and are starting to understand that a root of much evil is the Epstein-Barr virus, and thatyes, we Orthomolecularists have an anti-viral tool that modern medicine ignores?

As far as how Anthony knows what he says the SOURCE knows, you can't have it both ways. Sure he could have found a link to Ashwagandha, but so far in my Reading, there is no mention of using it for testosterone - he recommends for a completely different reason. (When you get to it, let me know if that is already known.)

It was just a synchronicity by the N.D. Guru, like the ones you know, who recommended it, and that little uneducated faker Anthony would list it. There are lots of things Anthony lists, and at some point I will start paying closer attention to them.

I have no understanding of wtf you just said .
"like the one I know"??

testostrone? no, you know how you increase testostrone
1 lose fat(thus lower aromatase)
2 drugs

Ashwagandha increases the production of nitric oxide is stimulated in their bodies
which might flip the switch for dementia, like alz

[ofonorow]

I have no understanding of wtf you just said .

I know this feeling.

"like the one I know"??

By "one" I mean that forum with all the HRT experts..The friend you knew

testostrone? no, you know how you increase testostrone
1 lose fat(thus lower aromatase)
2 drugs

Off topic, no one is talking testosterone except to mention that the Medical Medium says alt medicine's focus on HRT is misplaced.

Ashwagandha increases the production of nitric oxide is stimulated in their bodies
which might flip the switch for dementia, like alz

Hey, that's pretty close.

So my dear john jackson, start reading MEDICAL MEDIUM.. I know it hurts to think about reading a book, but you can do it via kindle, so its a lot like reading internet pages You will learn for the first time in your life, "True Knowledge that you never have to worry about being overturned." Should you find a violation of that dictum, e.g. that the brain can't be mostly carbohydrate, post it and we will debate.

[johnjackson]

So my dear john jackson, start reading MEDICAL MEDIUM.. I know it hurts to think about reading a book, but you can do it via kindle, so its a lot like reading internet pages You will learn for the first time in your life, "True Knowledge that you never have to worry about being overturned." Should you find a violation of that dictum, e.g. that the brain can't be mostly carbohydrate, post it and we will debate.[/color][/b]

OH honey, lets stop the tounge in cheek insults, eh?
I shared your obsession with MM with others, also well educated, and they dont understand your obsession.

recall,I asked a simple question and never got a simple answer
1 about "liver rescue" and how to avoid what your MM says 90% of people get?
no answer,,

2 HRT forum has made the lives of many people worthwhile again., helped decrease insulin resistance and other benefits that having low T or high E dont have

3 "grazing is good"?
how do you define grazying? eating all the time?
even thru evolution(you believe in that, right?) humans didnt grazy
things like leangains(intermittent fasting https://rippedbody.com/intermittent-fasting-benefits/)

or

eat;fast(fasting lowers IGF-1, cutting cancer risks, https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19112549 )

all show use many benefits to periods of fasting

you watched WTH on netflix, watch SCIENCE OF FASTING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1b08X-GvRs

Russians/germans did a lot of research into this

and along with low AA intake, americans dont fast..they are constantly eating
at my job, we weely have a pot luck lunch and people eat all day, sitting at desks, munching on high carb/high fat foods

I love it because there are 2 ways to diet
1 eat less, lose weight--get leaneer
2 feed others around you, making them fatter and you looking smaller./

[pamojja]

Low-fat high-fiber diet decreased serum and urine androgens in men.

Decrease of serum total and free testosterone during a low-fat high-fibre diet.

[johnjackson]

Yes, dieting lowers a lot things
Belly fat and low testosterone are known to be linked with each other. As many men age their testosterone levels tend to decrease and they tend to gain more belly fat. Body fat has an enzyme called aromatase that converts testosterone into estrogens
so when you diet a lot of things will lower, so?

living a low fat life means you are going to have more Nitric oxidee and thus more sex and look good whle having sex
14 Powerful Reasons To Go On a Low Fat Diet
Improve T/E ratio
reduce liver fat
lower BP
reduce HCAs hurting your prostate
Low Fat Diet increased telomerase activity in immune cell
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Ornish_Diet.aspx

[ofonorow]

I shared your obsession with MM with others, also well educated, and they dont understand your obsession.

recall,I asked a simple question and never got a simple answer
1 about "liver rescue" and how to avoid what your MM says 90% of people get?
no answer

Nothing is ever simple with u, if it were, I would have seen this. Now, what is the question?

2 HRT forum has made the lives of many people worthwhile again., helped decrease insulin resistance and other benefits that having low T or high E dont have

Maybe, or they have really ruined them by making them dependent on the injections. Wouldn't it be much better if their own bodies recovered on their own, with out "replacement therapy."?

3 "grazing is good"?
how do you define grazying? eating all the time?
even thru evolution(you believe in that, right?) humans didnt grazy


deleted because too long and not understandable, at least by me.

I love it because there are 2 ways to diet
1 eat less, lose weight--get leaneer
2 feed others around you, making them fatter and you looking smaller./

"Grazing" is what Anthony William (the Medical Medium") calls a simple protocol that he has recommended to many of his clients suffering from a "mystery illness." Its not meant to represent any particular ancient history, although it is likely hunter gathers DID follow such a protocol in ancient times, come to think of it.

Read, learn and join me in awe.