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1. If lysine is the principal component of collagen and collagen makes up the majority of the body's protein, wouldn't the amino acid profile of meat be heavily lysine?
I'm guessing it's because Alanine/Arginine/Aspartic are non-essential amino acids and it's assumed that the body can just manufacture those?
pamojja wrote:Could above product already be too much protein for my kidneys? - Or could there be any possible adverse effects, taken in this combination?
pamojja wrote:Have to add, I've been vegetarian for most of my life and my main source of protein consists of lentils and milk products.
n almost daily chest pain - which for no diagnosis has been found, despite being checked up for 2 weeks in a hospital 3 years ago - is miracolously gone. However, whenever I try to lower Q10 below 150 mg daily this pain is coming back again.
ofonorow wrote:Is there an open question?
pamojja wrote:1. Does Hydroxyprolin have the same action on Lp(a) as Prolin?
2. Could above product already be too much protein for my kidneys? - Or could there be any possible adverse effects, taken in this combination?
ofonorow wrote:Taking a protein supplement may be wise for a vegetarian, ...
ofonorow wrote:The caveat is that taking too much protein puts a load on the kidneys. Pauling became an expert in this (almost died at age 40 of a kidney ailment. At that time, higher protein was recommended, and people generally died from the ailment..
ofonorow wrote:... but I don't think it is the best way to obtain therapeutic levels of proline, ..
ofonorow wrote:However, we may be talking about the same supplement - more technical name? Read Pauling's HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER for a detailed discussion on the right amount of protein to consume daily.
ofonorow wrote:Sounds like your pain is caused by a lack of CoQ10 - which will cause muscle pain, and while making your own is the least expensive way to go (requires excellent nutrition) taking several drugs will deplete CoQ10. Are you on any drugs?
ofonorow wrote:..but focus on CoQ10 - perhaps trying at least some the ubiquinol form - apparently some people have trouble breaking CoQ10 down to this substance, which is what I am told the body can actually utilize.
If you are willing to experiment, we can learn from your pain threshold. I would be interested in whether (and how much) ubiquinol keeps you from experiencing the pain. Can it really substitute for CoQ10 and might it in fact be btter? For example, it would be useful to know if it has no effect, etc.
ofonorow wrote:Read Pauling's HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER for a detailed discussion on the right amount of protein to consume daily.
HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER wrote:The amount of protein required for amino-acid balance for adult is proportional to body weight. It is about 0.45 grams (g) per kilogram (kg), 0.20 g per pound. The Food and Nutrition Board recommends 30 percent larger amounts, 0.26 g per pound for adults. Infants need about 1.0 g per pound, young children about 0.60 g per pound, older children and adolescents 0.50 or 0.40 g per pound.
Most adult Americans ingest two or three times the recommended amount of proteins. The excess not required or building new protein molecules is burned, for energy, along with the fats and carbohydrates, and probably no harm is done by the excess intake to people in reasonably good health. A high intake is protein increases the burden on the kidney. People with impaired kidney function, such as those with only one kidney or who have suffered damage from nephritis, can avert further kidney damage by limiting protein to the amino-acid-balance level. Care must be taken not to go below this level.
Although all of the amino acids are present in the proteins in the human body, not all of them need to be in the food because most of them are manufactured by the body. Those that must be obtained in the food, the essential amino acids, are histidine, leucine, isoleucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, theonine, tryptophan, and valine. The amounts required for an adult young man range from 0.50 g for tryptophan to 2.20 g per day for leucine, methionine, and phyenylalanine. These amounts are provided by a mixed diet including animal protein (meat, fish, eggs) but not by a vegetarian diet, which may be especially low in lysine and methionine.
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