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If this is true, Linus Pauling was wrong. I rest my case.Giz, heart disease is a food-borne illness
gizmo1955 wrote:Well, I went to the cardiologist last Thursday and as suspected the discussion was less than useful. He did not do any tests as there was no openings they were all booked up. So Owen, as you mentioned it maybe helpful to get an extension. A Thallium stress test will be done on October 20th. As we were setting this up he said "unless you want to do a cath...." I commented "NO.. as a matter of fact I would like to stay away from stents altogether,(assuming that will be the natural progression if something is found during the cath) I would like to try abscorbic acid". Then he commented "WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN" - I said "why not?" "IT'S NOT PROVEN!" I said "that's because nobody has done any testing.." and the 5 minute appointment was over, no further discussion. He pretty much walked out except I was able ask him for a ER version of nitro, which he agreed to.
So Owen, you pretty much nailed the attitude. You're right though, it would be nice if they could work with me and monitor progress and make suggestions. I'm not sure that can happen. My guess is, unless I have some drastic changes between now and the 20th and depending what the thallium indicates, I will probably be looking for a second opinion.
89826- I take your point that both the plant based diet and PT can work together. Personally, I am trying to get back on track with the diet but I have always had issues with eating properly and it is the same with this diet. I have been able to stick pretty close to the main principles, nothing with a face or a mother, no oil (maybe a little PAM to spray a pan) etc. Sugar has been an issue as well as just eating too much and too fast. All things to work on.
Thanks to all of you for your continued insight and help.
Furthermore, a study reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 1997 showed that a 20 percent increase in either saturated or monounsaturated dietary fat lowered the risk of stroke to one-eighth of what it was in individuals on lower-fat diets. Unsaturated fats showed no such benefit.
Diabetics die from heart failure at a rate far exceeding that of people with normal glucose tolerance. Heart failure invoices a weakening of the cardiac muscle so that it cannot pump enough blood. Most long-term poorly controlled diabetics have a condition called cardiomyopathy . In diabetic cardiomyopathy the muscle tissue of the heart is slowly replaced by scar tissue over a period of years. This weakens the muscle so that it eventually "fails." There is no evidence linking cardiomypathy with dietary fat intake or serum lipids.
89826 wrote:Gizmo, just to be clear: of course eggs are not plant food, so are to be avoided. I see that Owen praised them to you in a post above. And he talks about carbohydrates as being bad for you. That strikes me as utter nonsense. If you don't eat carbohydrates, all that is left to eat is lots of fat and protein-- foods which damage the endothelium. Plus I always look askance at people who use carbohydrates as an umbrella term. There is a world of difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates. The former aren't good for you because they spike insulin levels and fructose stripped of fiber is injurious to the endothelium. Complex carbohydrates, i.e. starches, on the other hand are ideal food and fuel. They are the human diet.
89826 wrote:Gizmo, just to be clear: of course eggs are not plant food, so are to be avoided. I see that Owen praised them to you in a post above. And he talks about carbohydrates as being bad for you. That strikes me as utter nonsense. If you don't eat carbohydrates, all that is left to eat is lots of fat and protein-- foods which damage the endothelium. Plus I always look askance at people who use carbohydrates as an umbrella term. There is a world of difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates. The former aren't good for you because they spike insulin levels and fructose stripped of fiber is injurious to the endothelium. Complex carbohydrates, i.e. starches, on the other hand are ideal food and fuel. They are the human diet.
Montmorency wrote:Does Bernstein say what is it about the diabetic condition that tends to induce or encourage cardiomyopathy?
How do you get enough from foods?
Although the body is capable of synthesizing CoQ10, Dr. Weil believes that adding foods high in CoQ10 to the diet and taking a daily supplement is advisable for the at-risk populations indicated above. A typical American diet will include approximately 10 mg of CoQ10 daily, so supplementation is usually necessary to reach the amounts that Dr. Weil regards as optimal. Foods such as fish and meats, and oils from soybean, sesame, and rapeseed (canola) are good dietary sources.
Luckily, vegetable sources of CoQ10 include spinach, broccoli, and cauliflower. Legumes such as peanuts and soybeans are the best non-animal sources of the substance.
I have been a CoQ10 researcher for 43 years. Man has CoQ10 , all plants except Spinches and Broccoli have CoQ9. You would have to eat four gallon of chopped spinach daily to get you daily requirement of CoQ10. Man can\'t use Coq9 for the generation of energy or as an antioxidant. Supplementation is the only was for an older individual to get the required amount of CoQ10.
William V Udy, PhD
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