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ofonorow wrote:[b][color=#000080]Thank you for the link/paper. Dr. Levy includes a chapter in STOP AMERICA'S #1 KILLER devoted to Chondroitin Sulfate, which is where I first learned of its value for heart disease.
johnjackson wrote:is that worth adding to the PT ?
pamojja wrote:johnjackson wrote:is that worth adding to the PT ?
Here an article of an old clinical experience with chondroitin sulfate: http://knowledgeofhealth.com/the-man-wh ... rol-drugs/
If its worth adding depends if PT alone is working for you. The only way to know for sure are repeated CAC scores, or ultrasonography of max. CIMT, or arterial examination in the cath lab. All other blood-markers including Lp(a) are only 'risk-markers', which only mean you're at somewhat higher risk, but don's show if plaque growth is progressing or regressing at all.
So without taking at least one of these imaging tests, one can't know Pauling therapy is really working. Unless debilitating symptoms, like angina pains, walking pain, etc. is indeed remedied with Pauling therapy right away.
johnjackson wrote:she'll get retested in october and if the Lp(a) is lowered, then PT is working, if it is not, does that mean PT is not working?
pamojja wrote:
A low or high Lp(a) only shows the 'risk' is different, it doesn't show if plaque is regressing or progressing. Only imaging does.
pamojja wrote:johnjackson wrote:but he is at low risk for a heart attack, even without imaging?
That would be the case if Lp(a) would be the only risk factor. Sadly, there are too many things which can damage the endothelium and start the repair process of plaque-growth. Here a list of factors by a very knowledgeable cholesterol-skeptic:
johnjackson wrote:sure, dont forgot being shot!??
or asteroid falling on someone's heads?
Lots of things cause death/heart attacks, but I'm talking about things we can measure,
pamojja wrote:The most people die of is either calcification of arteries or cancer at old age. The only test which measures calcification is imaging, not Lp(a). Your friend has no disease of calcification if he measures it. Lp(a) doesn't measures calcification.
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