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ofonorow wrote:You are a very intelligent individual. Checking your Lp(a) at any age is a wonderful idea, although I will say that if you are taking our RDA (at least 6000 mg of vitamin C daily) and have done so for years, I suspect you don't have elevated Lp(a).
I remember the finding in autopsies of our young soldiers during the Korean war. Many had massive "heart disease" (atheroclerotic plaques) while I don't believe the Koreans did. American diet? But it shows that young people can be "timebombs" for a heart attack too.
The idea that exercise might contribute to the stress on the arteries is interesting.. Does anyone remember Jim Fix?
Again, simply taking GULO-replacement dosages of vitamin C, plus other antioxidants for insurance (vitamins A, E, etc.) should help avoid any unwelcome consequence of exercise.
ofonorow wrote:
In my opinion, ordinary LDL (that is not Lp(a)) is harmless. More than harmless, necessary and important to your health (as it carries around many fat soluble nutrients, such as vitamin E, CoQ10, etc. and is used to manufacture all your sex and steroid hormones.)
According to the Pauling theory, Lp(a) acts as a surrogate for your low vitamin C intake, creating plaster casts to keep your arteries from rupturing. It is a good thing considering the alternative.
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The reason Pauling should be considered for another Nobel prize (posthumously) is for the idea that lysine (and later proline) can work as Lp(a) binding inhibitors and "even dissolve aterial plaques."
I am personally not certain why the therapy always seems to work so fast for people in severe pain. Reports are cessation of pain in 10 days, and they report painting their homes in 30 days!! But I am quite certain that maintaining the Pauling protocol, perhaps lowering the dosage as the Lp(a) number reaches zero, will lead to a healthy and apparently rejuvenated cardiovascular system. The only important addition seems to be adding vitamin K if calcium is detected in the arteries.[/b]
I am taking 15grams vit C and 4-5grams lysine
-I am not to exceed 6grams lysine?
-should I also add proline or is lysine enough?
ofonorow wrote:
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Hopefully I justed answered your question. [b] If you don't currently have heart disease or elevated Lp(a) you may not have to add proline, but for those that do, adding proline seems to magnify the anti-CVD effects.
We recommend not exceeding 6 grams lysine (as 2.5 g daily worked for my uncle) and Johnwen has found that the maximum tolerable limit (if you will) is probably around 14 grams daily.
But there are lots of people who didn't want to take any chances! One person circa 1996, took 6 servings of Heart Technology daily (instead of 2 or 3) so he was getting, what, 18 g of lysine (and a lot of proline) without any apparent harm.
And remember you are probably getting 1 to 2 grams of lysine in your food.[/b]
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