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guitarplayer007 wrote:Maybe why I don't see any results yet.
I take a scoop of cardio C twice a day and 1 gram of China free Vitamin C several times a day. The China free says 1 gram is 4000 mg so I take around 17000 to 19000 per day.... just wondering if i don't get that rumble in stomach am i not taking enough?
Thanks
Ken
My Angina seems to be getting worse as opposed to better
Frodo wrote:Hello Ken an Joanna
I have also artery narrowing at 50% and 4 drugs eluting stents after mci. I have no angina, but a strong anxiety disorder (need help!). And I'm on PT since 3 months. I take 10 - 20 grams C and do not reach bowel intolerance, only a liitle bit floating/gas. I think my intolerance begins at 50 grams. My lp(a) is elevated. But on PT it dropped down from 110 to 47.
skwoodwiva wrote:Frodo wrote:Hello Ken an Joanna
I have also artery narrowing at 50% and 4 drugs eluting stents after mci. I have no angina, but a strong anxiety disorder (need help!). And I'm on PT since 3 months. I take 10 - 20 grams C and do not reach bowel intolerance, only a liitle bit floating/gas. I think my intolerance begins at 50 grams. My lp(a) is elevated. But on PT it dropped down from 110 to 47.
I had great bouts of anxiety after my CABG. I narrowed the cause to be the beta blockers, carvedilol & variants. It is a rare effect & my Dr thinks me nuts, lol. I started Moringa and never looked back.
ofonorow wrote:guitarplayer007 wrote:Maybe why I don't see any results yet.
I take a scoop of cardio C twice a day and 1 gram of China free Vitamin C several times a day. The China free says 1 gram is 4000 mg so I take around 17000 to 19000 per day.... just wondering if i don't get that rumble in stomach am i not taking enough?
Thanks
Ken
My Angina seems to be getting worse as opposed to better
When you say "I take 1 gram" I believe you meant that "I take 1 teaspoon" of the vitamin C powder.
Not seeing any normal bowel tolerance issues at that dosage is a strong indicator that your body is absorbing - and using - all the ascorbate you are giving it, implying that it could use more. This is the major point of the Cathcart BOWEL TOLERANCE paper/finding. Over the years, I think we have learned from case reports, that after the underlying issues are corrected, or stress is reduced, Bowel Tolerance goes down to more normal levels.
Since there is no known toxicity or other harm from taking large dosages of vitamin C, it makes sense to increase. (If you haven't read Cathcart's paper, or even if you have you should read it again.: https://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm
Sorry for having to re-ask questions, but are you diabetic?
One reason for such high Bowel Tolerance could be dental toxicity.
And there is another measure of need that may help you decide on a more correct dosage of vitamin C - the Jaffee Cleanse/Calibration. Search forum for "perque" to find the link directly to the protocol, but from memory, you find the largest one-time dose you can take.. In my case, I can take at least 9000 mg at one time without any issue. During the calibration, you begin taking this dosage every 15 minutes, until the watery discharge, usually around the 2 hour point. The amount of vitamin C taken is the calibrated amount. In your case this will be some very large number, lets say 100 grams to make the math easy. The recommended amount is around 75%, so this procedure (with these numbers) would indicate a daily need for 75 grams of vitamin C. (And added benefit from this procedure is a colon cleanse. Dr. Levy once told me that he does this once per week.)
Joanna45 wrote:Wow I reached bowel tolerance at 14000 and that was with just pure ascorbic acid from the health food store and 6000 Lysine.i took that for about 1 month to see if it was going to work..it got rid of the angina in about 4 days. I currently use heart tech from tower labs. I also had superior mesenteric artery narrowing at almost 50%..do you have blockages what is the extent of your narrowing..
ofonorow wrote:guitarplayer007 wrote:Maybe why I don't see any results yet.
I take a scoop of cardio C twice a day and 1 gram of China free Vitamin C several times a day. The China free says 1 gram is 4000 mg so I take around 17000 to 19000 per day.... just wondering if i don't get that rumble in stomach am i not taking enough?
Thanks
Ken
My Angina seems to be getting worse as opposed to better
When you say "I take 1 gram" I believe you meant that "I take 1 teaspoon" of the vitamin C powder.
Not seeing any normal bowel tolerance issues at that dosage is a strong indicator that your body is absorbing - and using - all the ascorbate you are giving it, implying that it could use more. This is the major point of the Cathcart BOWEL TOLERANCE paper/finding. Over the years, I think we have learned from case reports, that after the underlying issues are corrected, or stress is reduced, Bowel Tolerance goes down to more normal levels.
Since there is no known toxicity or other harm from taking large dosages of vitamin C, it makes sense to increase. (If you haven't read Cathcart's paper, or even if you have you should read it again.: https://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm
Sorry for having to re-ask questions, but are you diabetic?
One reason for such high Bowel Tolerance could be dental toxicity.
And there is another measure of need that may help you decide on a more correct dosage of vitamin C - the Jaffee Cleanse/Calibration. Search forum for "perque" to find the link directly to the protocol, but from memory, you find the largest one-time dose you can take.. In my case, I can take at least 9000 mg at one time without any issue. During the calibration, you begin taking this dosage every 15 minutes, until the watery discharge, usually around the 2 hour point. The amount of vitamin C taken is the calibrated amount. In your case this will be some very large number, lets say 100 grams to make the math easy. The recommended amount is around 75%, so this procedure (with these numbers) would indicate a daily need for 75 grams of vitamin C. (And added benefit from this procedure is a colon cleanse. Dr. Levy once told me that he does this once per week.)
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