fredrik949 wrote:Started taking 8g vitamin c 6 g Lysine and 2g Proline on a daily basis 8 months ago due to high Lipoprotein a levels. I am 34 year old otherwise healthy male, exercise regularly and eat mostly healthy. After 8 months of this my lipoprotein a levels have increased!
Linus Pauling patent is named:
Prevention and treatment of occlusive cardiovascular disease with ascorbate and substances that inhibit the binding of lipoprotein (A), only secondarily it is mentioned that thereby it
could lower Lp(a) too.
So the amount of lp(a) is actually a poor marker of the main objective of inhibiting the binding of lp(a). The most definite marker to track would be a CAC score.
Moreover, this patent is concerned with CVD, but
already in good health Pauling recommended in his '86 book:
How to Live Longer and Feel Better - Take vitamin C every day, 6 grams to 18 g (6000 to 18,000 milligrams), or more. Do not miss a single day.
- Take vitamin E every day, 400 IU, 800 IU, or 1600 IU.
- Take one or two Super-B tablets every day, to provide good amounts of the B-vitamins.
- Take 25,000 IU vitamin A tablet every day.
- Take a mineral supplement every day, such as one tablet of the Bronson vitamin-mineral formula, which provides 100 mg of calcium, 18 mg of iron, 0.15 mg of iodine, 1 mg of copper, 25 mg of magnesium, 3 mg of manganese, 15 mg of zinc, 0.015 mg of molybdenum, 0.015 mg of chromium, and 0.015 mg of selenium.
- Keep your intake of ordinary sugar (sucrose, raw sugar, brown sugar, honey) to 50 pounds per year, which is half the present U.S. average. Do not add sugar to tea or coffee. Do not eat high-sugar foods. Avoid sweet desserts. Do not drink soft drink.
- Except for avoiding sugar, eat what you like - but not too much of any one food. Eggs and meat are good foods. Also you should eat some vegetables and fruits. Do not eat so much food as to become obese.
- Drink plenty of water every day.
- Keep active; take some exercise. Do not at any time exert yourself physically to an extent far beyond what you are accustomed to.
- Drink alcoholic beverages only in moderation.
- Do not smoke cigarettes.
- Avoid stress. Work at a job that you like. Be happy with your family.
The more so necessary to pay attention to these little so often overseen details with risk-markers of CVD present. But don't take risk-markers as the actual disease, only something like a CAC score would show.
I my case I got a 60% walking-disability from PAD 10 years ago (a 80% blockage at my abdominal aorta bifurcation), which I could only reverse after 6 years of consistent comprehensive supplementation, and paying a lot of attention to dietary and lifestyle changes. My Lp(a) fluctuated between 34 to 66 mg/dl during all that 10 years and wasn't associated with worsening or improving of my intermittent claudication at all. But in retrospect the highest levels proceeded a chronic bronchitis lasting a whole year in total.
You have some inflammation going on we don't know from what, high Lp(a) is only trying to protect and isn't the enemy itself. Its like firefighters trying to contain a fire. But conventional medicine is concerned with shooting the firefighters only, without a second though about the raging flames.