Hi Owen, I contacting you because i've come across some conflicting information about the proper way to take the
pauling therapy. I came across the heart tower ascorsine 9 web site & they do not recommend taking their product
with juice or any simple carbohydrates as they say interferes with the pauling therapy being effective because of the
blood glucose. The cardio states to take with juice or water or meals.
I'm wondering if i've been taking the cardio c the wrong way & not getting the full benefits.
I always take mine with 4 oz of pom juice & always with food which includes carbs.
I'm hoping you can shed some light on this.
A long time customer!
For general information, customers over that past 20 years report they experience least "nuisance" effects taking the vitamin C and lysine 20 minutes prior to meals.
Before answering, do you have any evidence that the way you are taking the therapy is wrong, that it has not worked properly?
Many years ago, we too followed the guidance of John Ely, MD, who theorized that glucose can interfere with the uptake of vitamin C by cells. I had spoken many times with Dr. Ely about his glucose-ascorbate antagonism (GAA) theory. He told me that while Pauling recommended keeping total sucrose intake levels lower than was common in the USA, Pauling apparently did not fully subscribe to Dr. Ely's theory.
I will say that if blood sugar is very high, out of control, there may be something to this idea.
The universe recently brought new information to my attention last year by way of Anthony William, the Medical Medium. Key information is that before ANY nutrient can be absorbed by the body - glucose must be present (and by implication, insulin must be present.) If you have Amazon kindle, you can get the free preview of his first book THE MEDICAL MEDIUM... Granted, it sounds made up, but I offered anyone in our company who found a single provable error in the material a reward of $1000. There is a lot of new, unknown material, but no errors in the first 4 books that can be proven, written by a person who never went to college!
My own view has changed on sugar. Sucrose - table sugar, which is a 50/50 combination of glucose and fructose, and it should be avoided, because of the fructose. One can purchase glucose (as dextrose) from Now Foods, and I now take my own Cardio-C with glucose.
And if this is all true, then perhaps the reason such high doses of vitamin C are necessary to be effective, is because these large doses of ascorbate are needed by themselves to induce the pancreas to emit insulin, especially in the absence of glucose. The corollary is that when you take vitamin C with fruits and juice, perhaps much less vitamin C is required? I've been testing this by taking about half of the vitamin C I have historically taken - with glucose. If there is any evidence this isn't working, I will go back to the "old way."
I would say that we don't know the answer, but if you believe the Medical Medium, there is probably nothing wrong with taking Cardio-C with carbohydrates.
So why do I "believe" the medical medium?
We (The Vitamin C Foundation) did experiments with glucose meters that have been published showing the ascorbic acid can enter the bloodstream as early as 3 minutes after ingesting 10 grams. As far as I know, this was the first time such a measurement had been done that early, and most of the effect was over in 20-30 minutes, explaining why this has never been seen before. In the first book, William tells us that fructose can be absorbed in 3 minutes, bypassing the intestinal tract!! I almost fell off my chair reading that. Unless he had read my preliminary work, before it was published, I had confirmation that this previously unknown information is true, and must be coming "from somewhere else."
The William information about fat and its effects on the liver, helps explain why all low-fat diets, e.g. Ornish, have such positive results against heart disease. If you look at the ratings by the various magazines, the highest rated anti-CVD diets are low fat, while the Paleo and Keto are way down the list, near the bottom. It turns out that the thing to avoid before taking vitamin C - are fats! They clog the glucose (ascorbate) receptors on cell membranes.
There are more data points that have convinced me that one ignores the material in the Medical Medium series at their own risk. The best way to obtain this material is to read the books.