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Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:31 am**

BrightSideOfLife wrote:..since I got off MSM which is nasty stuff as it affects copper metabolism->collagen production.

How does MSM negatively affect copper metabolism?

Posted: **Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:15 pm**

pamojja wrote:
BrightSideOfLife wrote:..since I got off MSM which is nasty stuff as it affects copper metabolism->collagen production.

How does MSM negatively affect copper metabolism?

It eliminates it. I had no problems until I started taking MSM, once I started using it my arteries hardened and my BP rose. Once I stopped it things improved a bit but I have not totally resolved it yet after a few months but things have improved with massive doses of vit K2.

One side effect of MSM is a rise in BP just like I have experienced. It can cause other heart effects too. It can deplete molybdenum and I do supplement with molybdenum. I will never use it again.

Copper is essential for collagen production.

Posted: **Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:18 pm**

BrightSideOfLife wrote:It sounds like you might have high histamine levels which contribute to sinusitis. This can be caused by Increased Digestive Permeability which provokes an immune reaction and histamine release. It puts the body, Liver & Immune system under considerable stress and can affect the nervous system which tends to affect the circulatory system. A very significant amount of people are affected by this and so far not well recognised by Science and medicine with some research being done but the real connection is not recognised IMO.

Another thing that might be helpful is Vitamin K2. I use a combination of K2-MK4 and MK7 which has helped hardening of my arteries since I got off MSM which is nasty stuff as it affects copper metabolism->collagen production.

Hmm, great insight as to why I may be so responsive to serrapeptase.
On much K all of them for 3 mo fully & started right after mt CABG late '16 just not as I do now.

Posted: **Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:23 pm**

BrightSideOfLife wrote:It eliminates it. I had no problems until I started taking MSM, once I started using it my arteries hardened and my BP rose. Once I stopped it things improved a bit but I have not totally resolved it yet after a few months but things have improved with massive doses of vit K2.

One side effect of MSM is a rise in BP just like I have experienced. It can cause other heart effects too. It can deplete molybdenum and I do supplement with molybdenum. I will never use it again.

Copper is essential for collagen production.

Funny, since 9 years I'm fighting a much too high copper to zinc ratio, copper and zinc sometimes even above and below normal respectively. But 5 gram of MSM didn't helped in any way. Also my BP has been consistently at 110/70.

By the way, I'm highly deficient in sulfur. Just shows again that we all come with different preconditions, and what works for some doesn't for others due to bio-chemical individuality.

Posted: **Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:25 pm**

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serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?

Re: serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?

Re: serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?

Re: serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?

Re: serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?

Re: serrapeptase has such overwhelming effect, it begs the Q. Can PT be considered auxiliary to it?