ofonorow wrote:First, I remember Pauling's writing that eggs and meats were good foods (and that the fear of cholesterol was unfounded) but where did he say to eat fruits and vegetables? I'd appreciate the reference..
Since so few seem to actually have ever read, or only remember what they liked to hear, here in todo again:
How to Live Longer and Feel Better
Take vitamin C every day, 6 grams to 18 g (6000 to 18,000 milligrams), or more. Do not miss a single day.
Take vitamin E every day, 400 IU, 800 IU, or 1600 IU.
Take one or two Super-B tablets every day, to provide good amounts of the B-vitamins.
Take 25,000 IU vitamin A tablet every day.
Take a mineral supplement every day, such as one tablet of the Bronson vitamin-mineral formula, which provides 100 mg of calcium, 18 mg of iron, 0.15 mg of iodine, 1 mg of copper, 25 mg of magnesium, 3 mg of manganese, 15 mg of zinc, 0.015 mg of molybdenum, 0.015 mg of chromium, and 0.015 mg of selenium.
Keep your intake of ordinary sugar (sucrose, raw sugar, brown sugar, honey) to 50 pounds per year, which is half the present U.S. average. Do not add sugar to tea or coffee. Do not eat high-sugar foods. Avoid sweet desserts. Do not drink soft drink.
Except for avoiding sugar, eat what you like - but not too much of any one food. Eggs and meat are good foods. Also you should eat some vegetables and fruits. Do not eat so much food as to become obese.
Drink plenty of water every day.
Keep active; take some exercise. Do not at any time exert yourself physically to an extent far beyond what you are accustomed to.
Drink alcoholic beverages only in moderation.
Do not smoke cigarettes.
Avoid stress. Work at a job that you like. Be happy with your family.
ofonorow wrote:As far as the insulin, it is not so simple, as I tried to point out. Taking my standard dose now causes hypoglycemia. Since my meals contain almost no fat, the sugar stays controlled, so my scale instructs me to take much less than after a high fat meal. For example, my fast acting insulin dose is 1 unit for every 10 points above 140 mg/dl. In the past, after a fat-based meal, my sugars would approach 300 mg/dl. Or 160 above 140, or around 15 units. Now, my sugars rarely get above 150 mg/dl - so taking any insulin is problematic, and I don't take any. (I still take 20 long acting lantus, and while that is down from the 50/60 I was taking not long ago, it was re calibrated before this low-fat diet experiment (but did happen during my intermittent fasting stage) when metforminw as added.
Thanks, now we do have some meassurements of improvement. So up to 15 units less for acute spikes. Though I did see a screenshot of one 250 mg/dl spike not long ago. Therefore probably some less in average.
ofonorow wrote:These arguments are almost nonsense. You asked and I answered. You asked for some modality that hadn't been suggested, and I put forth the main miraculous herbal treatment that no one else previously had put forth.
Celery juice is of course included in Gerson's juicing, even if each useable veggetable isn't mentioned, but practiced since almost a 100 years. That celery juice only would be enough - that isn't a new intervention - but a theory not proven in others. It might really have healed him. Just as other vegetables juiced healed others of serious disease too. The working intervention of juicing working for some, isn't contradicted or improved by celery juicing working for some others alone. Nothing new. Nothing special.
Sure, there is for example also a Trevor Marshall with his Marshall protocol, healing his sarcoidosis by avoidance of vitamin D and sun. And now preaching it to most other chronic disease patients. But no prove it works in others. Same with M&M. Only a theory fabricated by fantasy, not proven. All his interventions till now seen already known.
But the biggest obstacle I see with celery juicing alone is - at least where I live it isn't available year round. Even during season there are whole weeks its not in stores. And even less likely in the prefered organic form. Therefore the 3 members giving it a trial, might not even be able to following through.